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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted 21:33, 15 April 2008.

List of 7th Heaven episodes

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previous FLC

Self nomination All the concerns I think have been addressed since the last FLC. It no longer looks like a Skittleopedia, and has all the relevent information, with a suitable Lead section, and is fully referenced. All concerns/comments will be addressed. Thanks -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 04:44, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done -- Matthew 16:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Resolved stuff from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • Image caption is fragment - remove the full stop.
  •  Done
    • Spaces between the years and the en-dash in the tables for "originally aired" should be removed.
  •  Done
    • Per above, what's a "prod code"?
  •  Done
    • Decap Airdate in the tables.
  •  Done
    • Why aren't there any episode synopses?
  • Purely for WP:SIZE reasons. Episode summaries for 240 episodes would be a strain on the page. I'm not opposed to doing episode summaries, I'd just rather make individual season pages. Also, the summaries that were there were direct copies of those at tv.com and had to be removed as Copyvio. -- Matthew 16:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support my major concerns addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comments:
    • A list of episodes page usually does not use a show infobox, having only an captioned image in the upper right corner. Why use one here?
      • I bulleted your comments so it would be easier to respond. I hope that's OK with you. Consider this point  Done.
    • Rather than have refs in the season table headers, why not divide the refs into a General and a Specific section as is seen with other featured episode lists?
      •  Done Although I've seen just as many done like this
    • Where are the specific season articles with summaries?
      • I, or rather, the Wiki community haven't created them yet. I don't mind doing them, and I will if no one else gets around to it.
    • Individual season sections should be subsections under the first season header.
      •  Done, if I understand this correctly
    • I'd go ahead and remove the template at the bottom since its pretty clear it will be deleted.
      •  Done

    Collectonian (talk) 00:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for your comments so far! -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 04:17, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    No problem. I changed the list to show you what I meant about the general episode section. Feel free to change it back if you don't like. :) Beyond that my only concern is the lack of summaries and season pages. It would be one thing to have no summaries but seasonal pages, but I'm not sure an episode list that doesn't have them yet is ready for FL until it does. ~thinking~ Collectonian (talk) 04:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know why I put done when it wasn't! Thanks though. I don't mind doing the season pages but if they need to be there for this to be passed then maybe it should be closed, because as quick as I was with the Degrassi season pages it still took me an entire day to write each one. That would mean the season pages wouldn't be complete for at least another 11 days from now. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 19:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not sure that it would need to take that long. You'd basically need to make an episode template hack (or use an existing one of it works for what you need). Then cutting and pasting the tables into the new articles, adding at least a basic intro and front matter, change the template name (search/replace), and then include those pages into the main list. Then the tables don't have to be repeated. If you aren't sure what I mean, take a look at List of Lassie episodes and then List of Lassie episodes (season 1) to see how this works. :) Collectonian (talk) 02:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    More formally opposing. While its a good start, without summaries or season pages, I do not feel it meets the completion requirements to be featured at this time. Collectonian (talk) 07:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comments I would like to see seasonal pages created as well before featuring this list. Also, could you remove <br /> from production code, season #, and series #? The reason is that it forces wide headers for users with higher screen resolution. "Another" also, could you change the table widths from pixels to percentages? --Crzycheetah 07:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Not in the column widths, the only change I see is that all the headers are centered now. I'll adjust all the seasons to fit your sandbox, though. Thank you for the effort. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 23:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    What I wanted you to see is that the "prod code" column of season 6, for example, looks wider than the "prod code" column of season 7 in List of 7th Heaven episodes's current version. Meanwhile, in my sandbox those two columns have the same width.--Crzycheetah 00:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I've changed it already, but I looked at the old diff and I can see what you mean now. I also think it all depends what browser is being used. Firefox recognises pixels, whereas IE7 doesn't. They both recognise percentages though, so it was a good suggestion. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 00:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, I keep forgetting about those differences in browsers. It looks good now. Seasons 7-11 don't have heading colors because there is no DVD available yet, I assume. But missing seasonal pages is an obstacle here, though. I am going to stay neutral because of that. I think this will set a bad precedence, i.e. passing lists of episodes without summaries.--Crzycheetah 02:31, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yup. No DVD; no color. That's okay. I understand and respect where you're coming from. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 05:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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