Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Jared Leto filmography/archive1

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The list was not promoted by Crisco 1492 11:49, 8 February 2014 (UTC) [1].

Jared Leto filmography

Nominator(s): Earthh (talk) 02:07, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria. I have recently completely updated and improved the article according to WP:FILMOGRAPHY. Earthh (talk) 02:07, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There's not a single reference outside the lead. That means that there's nothing to support any of the information in any of the lists. Have a look at List of awards and nominations received by Vidya Balan for an FLC on a similar topic to see how the information is supported by reliable sources. That's why there is a column provided for sources in the example at WP:FILMOGRAPHY. - SchroCat (talk) 02:59, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The list you cited is not a filmography. This article meets the criteria at WP:FILMOGRAPHY; if you read it, the Source column is an optional field that is to be used when a work may be obscure or difficult to confirm. A film in which an actor starred does not need to be sourced. Take a look at other featured lists such as Clint Eastwood filmography, Christopher Walken filmography, Robert Bathurst filmography or Vittorio Storaro filmography; they do not need sources for films they starred or directed, unless it is a work obscure or difficult to confirm.--Earthh (talk) 14:35, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See Terry-Thomas on screen, radio, stage and record, David Niven on screen, stage, radio, record and in print and Hattie Jacques on stage, radio, screen and record, all of which are filmographies and all of which carry citations that support the information. These are all recent FLs, whereas the ones you list are between 2008 and 2010 and things have changed since those days: we now prefer that all information is supported by reliable sources. There is absolutely nothing in WP:FILMOGRAPHY that says we don't need to support information that appears in the body. - SchroCat (talk) 14:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your advice. I've just added the filmography from the New York Times as a source. I've also added single sources for uncredited parts and other credits which the NYT does not list.--Earthh (talk) 21:41, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ - article is essentially unsourced -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:59, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~See my reply above; a film in which an actor starred does not need to be sourced (see WP:FILMOGRAPHY).--Earthh (talk) 14:28, 17 December 2013 (UTC)~~[reply]
Sourced the whole article.--Earthh (talk) 21:45, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (having stumbled here from my FLC discussion page). I see some valiant effort on improving sourcing throughout the entire article has been made by Earthh after the above comments were made by SchroCat and ChrisTheDude. See changes made by Earthh, at DIFF. Also, as a side observation, no idea why this particular page seems to be the subject of incoming vandalism from apparent odd user accounts and IPs. I think I'll hold back from commenting further here until SchroCat and ChrisTheDude have had another chance to reevaluate the page since the improvements made by Earthh. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 12:21, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Humblest apologies, I completely forgot that I'd commented here. I'll try and have another look over it in the next few days..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:48, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - No worries, ChrisTheDude, keep us posted. And Earthh, if I myself also forget to revisit, feel free to remind me with a ping or post to my user talk page. — Cirt (talk) 18:23, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - the current ref 23 (used in the TV table) does not support the specific episodes of "Camp Wilder", "My So-Called Life" or "Almost Home" that he was in. It also seems to have a couple of roles not listed here...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The specific episodes of the television series are sourced by IMDb, it's the only source available (if you don't consider tv.com, tvguide.com or tvrage.com). Those not included are not acting roles, they're appearances in variety shows.--Earthh (talk) 14:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delegate note: This nomination has been archived. It may take several days for the bot to pass through. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:50, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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