Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Interpol discography/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 23:10, 26 January 2010 [1].
- Nominator(s): SteelersFanUK06 ReplyOnMine! 00:06, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it meets the standards of other featured lists, as well as the criteria neccessary to be featured. So here goes. SteelersFanUK06 ReplyOnMine! 00:06, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Drewcifer |
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Comments A few things catch my eye right off the bat:
Further comments by Drewcifer3000 (This is just a straight copy+paste of a message from my talk page left at 06:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)):[reply]
After looking through various discographies found in FL-Class Discography articles, I noticed that a similar manner of displaying songs found on other releases is used in Nirvana discography, here titled "Other appearances". I have retitled the section in this discography accordingly. Please see there for the rationale for its inclusion. --SteelersFanUK06 ReplyOnMine! 19:54, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
←Its quite good to hear you say that, considering I was going to mention something about the releases pre-dating the EP in my next comment. I will downsize the table to include these three songs. Should the releases be mentioned in the article's lead? |
Support Looks good to me. Happy to finally support. Drewcifer (talk) 22:39, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- PS, If you feel like bringing up the Other appearances thing at WP:DISCOG, let me know and I'd be happy to contribute to the conversation. Drewcifer (talk) 22:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Cannibaloki 03:37, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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Cannibaloki 03:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply] |
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The Rambling Man (talk) 23:40, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Question—Does a live performance video even count as a music video?—indopug (talk) 10:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Well a music video is surely just a promotional video for a single or even a piece of music (the latter applying to No I in Threesome, I think we've discovered), and on that basis I don't think that what the work can be is restricted in any way. On top of this, its listed on Muzu, NME and a few other websites as an "official video", and I can remember them playing it on MTV2 and NME, despite the fact I can't really get a source for that. --SteelersFanUK06 ReplyOnMine! 06:37, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose. Thus far, all attempts at convincing me that Chart Stats holds up to our standards for sources have failed. I suggest you look for another source. Goodraise 17:24, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed - I have removed all references to ChartStats. --SteelersFanUK06 ReplyOnMine! 03:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- As far as I can tell, Zobbel and Alpha Charts also don't meet the criteria. Goodraise 19:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I am unsure about this also, so I have added a note to a discussion already going over at WP:RS to clear it up for me, as I don't know where to look for answers. Despite this, aCharts is listed under WP:GOODCHARTS, suggesting its a good chart. --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 00:58, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- As far as I can tell, Zobbel and Alpha Charts also don't meet the criteria. Goodraise 19:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed - I have removed all references to ChartStats. --SteelersFanUK06 ReplyOnMine! 03:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I've restarted this discussion here. --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 00:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I've been told here that ChartStats / everyHit fall under WP:GOODCHARTS, while Zobbel and aCharts do not. All of the aCharts references have been removed. I think that all of the Zobbel references can be replaced with ChartStats references (Haven't done this as of yet so i could get a response here first). --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 18:14, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I just read that discussion. Nothing substantial has been said there. Aside from everyHit.com (which I am almost willing to accept per Wikipedia:Reliable sources#Usage by other sources), all of these sources fail our criteria. Let me remind you that not some obscure guideline but WP:RS and WP:V are what we use to determine the reliability of sources. Remaining opposed. Goodraise 03:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Why do you consider GOODCHARTS "some obscure guideline"? Surely this is the most appropriate guideline in terms of record charts. --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 07:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, as a style guideline that focuses on record charts, it is the most appropriate guideline when it comes to record charts related questions of style. However, reliability of sources is a question of content, which is handled by content guidelines, specifically by WP:RS. Even if source reliability was within the guideline's competence (which it isn't), would the sources it deems reliable have to meet the requirements of our policy (perhaps in a way outlined by its accompanying guideline). Goodraise 09:16, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Why do you consider GOODCHARTS "some obscure guideline"? Surely this is the most appropriate guideline in terms of record charts. --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 07:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I just read that discussion. Nothing substantial has been said there. Aside from everyHit.com (which I am almost willing to accept per Wikipedia:Reliable sources#Usage by other sources), all of these sources fail our criteria. Let me remind you that not some obscure guideline but WP:RS and WP:V are what we use to determine the reliability of sources. Remaining opposed. Goodraise 03:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I've been told here that ChartStats / everyHit fall under WP:GOODCHARTS, while Zobbel and aCharts do not. All of the aCharts references have been removed. I think that all of the Zobbel references can be replaced with ChartStats references (Haven't done this as of yet so i could get a response here first). --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 18:14, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
←After further discussion of the sources, I agree Zobbel shouldn't be used (since it includes disks which are ineligible to chart) and I will side with you on ChartStats, as its reliability is still in question. I have removed references to the above two with the exception of two citations, which I am leaving in for just now purely for flagging. I am currently waiting on an answers to a further question which i have asked RS, so I ask again that this is put on hold until I am given an answer. --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 13:00, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Its official, Zobbel is gone! After looking through one of your more recent FLC's, I found ChartsPlus in the Ashley Tisdale discography article. As such, I've replaced all Zobbel references with ChartsPlus references. This satisfies WP:V per WP:PAYWALL. Took me a while to find that. Can I have your support now? --20:04, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- EveryHit.com, on which discussion is still ongoing at WP:RSN, is still being used, so no, I'm still opposing. By the way, looking at the main article, it seems that this discography fails the featured list criterion 3. (b). Goodraise 00:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I don't understand why you've added the {{nl icon}} template like its French template counterpart, when the |language= field is much better suited for the {{cite web}} template. #47 is in Caps also. Afro (Not a Terrible Joke) - Afkatk 20:19, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, this was a straight copy from another FL, I didn't think any more to remove it than to include it. I've removed all copies of {{* icon}} and replaced them with the language field. --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 00:58, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Ref #6 "2002--04-26". #2, 5 and 7, the Internal link is listed as Allmusic but the reference title is listed in lower case which one is it? #39, 47 is in Caps. Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) - Afkatk 15:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I've fixed the typo. For the references, the title of the page is written as "allmusic", but the wikipedia page itself is "Allmusic", which is why it was written this way. Do you object? The pages with capitals is a similar typing situation, in both, the articles themselves are titled in capitals. --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 00:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The allmusic I accept, I think if the programming with Wikipedia was weird the Wiki page itself would be Lower case, though per WP:ALLCAPS the refs need to be changed. Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) - Afkatk 12:05, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thought there was probably a rule on this which i had missed. I've fixed it now. --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 03:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Just wondering since there are only 2 columns for the extended play Chart positions, why are the widths for the Chart Positions so small? Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) - Afkatk 13:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thought there was probably a rule on this which i had missed. I've fixed it now. --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 03:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The allmusic I accept, I think if the programming with Wikipedia was weird the Wiki page itself would be Lower case, though per WP:ALLCAPS the refs need to be changed. Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) - Afkatk 12:05, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I've fixed the typo. For the references, the title of the page is written as "allmusic", but the wikipedia page itself is "Allmusic", which is why it was written this way. Do you object? The pages with capitals is a similar typing situation, in both, the articles themselves are titled in capitals. --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 00:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
←It was added this way by Cannibaloki, so I don't want to talk for him, but I think it was because we had a discussion above about the widths remaining constant across all tables. Its the same as the widths for the albums and singles. Is this a problem? --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 13:52, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Nah it isn't a problem as such it just seems weird since there are only 2 columns. Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) - Afkatk 13:58, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- What would be more suited for you to give your support? --SteelersFanUK06 HereWeGo2010! 13:00, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- it just looks weird since its 2 columns but the way it sounds with your above comment it seems like there was some sort of Consensus on it. Afro (Its More Than a Feeling) - Afkatk 14:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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