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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by SchroCat via FACBot (talk) 00:30, 14 May 2016 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Inna discography

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Inna discography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Nominator(s): Cartoon network freak (talk) 13:56, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it is well written and reliable. I also followed the style and structure from Alexandra Stan's discography. --Cartoon network freak (talk) 13:54, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Dharmadhyaksha
 Done
  • I have no much experience with song related list. So please check this point with others too.
    How important and encyclopaedic is Youtube hit count in any article? Youtube is known for click frauds and the number of times the video is clicked on (not even fully seen) is immaterial. I think that bit in the lead and from the very first para should go away. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:25, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Done the first one, but I will for now not remove the YouTube paragraph until another experienced user thinks so. I think it's something very notably for her career, and it also further shows that her songs are successful. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 07:00, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from shaidar cuebiyar
Resolved comments from shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lead:
    • she already sold > she sold Superfluous.
 Done
    • "sold over one million singles": claim needs to be verified by a reliable certifying organisation, e.g. SNEP. A daily newspaper is not reliable for certification or sales claims. Once verified add a hard space between one and million, e.g. one million [check wikicode]. Repeat for similar instances elsewhere.
 Done Removed the statement. Cartoon network freak (talk) 06:58, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • "reached the top ten...": How is Romanian charting on a blog spot, reliable? According to WP:Recommended charts their singles (radio play) information can be found at Media Forest.
I don't know what you want to point out here? The top-ten mention was done concerning the Media Forest chart. Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:36, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:Verifiability policy, Self-published sources such as blogs are usually not reliable. Ref [31]a is a blog: its relationship to Media Forest is not obvious. This needs to be established clearly or the Romanian positions are not verified and should be deleted.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 11:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I just read his blogger profile, where he explains that he copied all the information he used for the blog from rt100.com and the Kiss FM podcasts after Romanian Top 100's missing. Cartoon network freak (talk) 13:00, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Replaced the source with the Wayback Machine publishings. Cartoon network freak (talk) 13:25, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Her career began in 2008...": Not if she signed with Roton and started recording in 2007.
In 2007, she started under the name "Alessandra", but in 2008 under Inna. Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:36, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Change it to the year at which the artist first started – regardless of the name started as.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 11:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done
    • "worldwide"? Only charting that is given for the single is in European countries: this is hardly worldwide. I see Japan, now: sorry. 01:09, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 Done
    • Delink second mention of "Amazing". Similarly delink previously linked terms in the rest of the Lead.
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    • number one position > number-one position Adjectival form is hyphenated, noun form is not.
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    • Delete ; both of the tracks were majorly successful Unnecessary exaggeration.
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    • Delete eventually Unnecessary.
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    • "17th best-selling single": Is there a reliable source?
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    • Don't link Crazy Sexy Wild twice, even if one is piped.
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    • Split long run-on sentences. e.g. the first sentence of third paragraph: end at Romania. Start new sentence with "More Than Friends"
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    • Delink 2nd mention of piped Inna (album)
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 Done
  • Wikitables:
    • Where multiple refs are used check their order is numerical, e.g. at Note [A]
 Done
    • Fix Polish albums chart piped link, e.g. [[OLiS|POL]] ZPAV is used for certifications: it verifies and supports OLiS, which is the charting authority.
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    • According to WP:Recommended charts, for aCharts in Poland: "This chart has been archived incorrectly or is taken from an impermissible chart. It cannot be used as a source." Replace it with one from OLiS or ZPAV Airplay.
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    • Hot Release date is not supported by ref [14], which says "Hot is released in the UK on 13 June". This article is written in May 2011: nearly two years after date given in this table.
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    • Should UFPR be UPFR? In any case fix pipe, e.g. [[Uniunea Producătorilor de Fonograme din România|UPFR]] not the artist's label.
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    • I Am the Club Rocker Release date is not supported by ref [20], which has January 2012. Also fix ref's title format to suit wp MoS.
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    • Curiously the 1st album charted in the top 30 in Poland but the 2nd did not, however the 2nd album is gold but the 1st is not.
I know; I searched for peak positions, but I didn't find anything. Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:53, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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    • Party Never Ends, again release date not supported by ref given! New article is written in late April, which says, "hat ihr inzwischen drittes Studioalbum Party Never Ends veröffentlicht." It does not specify an early March release.
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    • Reissued albums? How is this notable enough for a separate entry or even a table in a discography? A Note/description at the parent album's article would suffice.
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    • How is Last.fm a reliable source? It is a user generated wiki. A better source is required for Inna's singles.
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    • How is LetsSingIt reliable for charting information?
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    • How is FaceBook reliable for charting information?
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    • aCharts not reliable for Bulgarian charts, use Nielsen.
Is there any posibility to search through the archives by entering a keyword anywhere? I really have no time to search for Inna's songs. Cartoon network freak (talk) 13:05, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Replaced Bulgarian peaks with Russian charting.
 Done
    • For Czech charting modify the Note at the end of each sub-ref, e.g. For first one Note: User may have to specify the date range (next to RADIO – TOP 100): select 200951,52 from the drop down menu and then click on Zobrazit (display in Czech). Thereafter use Note: select 201016 Modify subsequently with the relevant date(s).
 Done
    • For German charting I see another listing for [Inna] as opposed to Inna (Dance). Neither listing shows charting information on singles after "Sun Is Up". You need more sub-refs here.
Added a sub-ref to Spanishcharts.com. Cartoon network freak (talk) 13:22, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Changed it now.
    • For Italian charts, I don't see how is Hit Parade Italia supported by FIMI. If this can be shown, then combine sub-refs for singles in charting same year.
@Shaidar cuebiyar Translating this, they seem to be reliable, as they had a magazine publication. Furthermore, they explain how their chart is based on sales, and they combine data from more official Italian charts, FIMI also. Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:25, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not convinced, I don't see any FIMI approval for Hit Parade Italia. I don't know why Hung Medien shows no Italian charting (see here and the Swiss charts summary, above). FIMI has this for "Hot" at No. 36. I'm not sure if this is its peak position. I haven't trawled the archive for other Inna charting.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:38, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • For Spanish charts, I'm not seeing individual singles positions at this url. Try "Hot" listing which also gives other singles.
 Done
 Done
    • At ref [46], I don't see year of release.
They say that Inna will premiere the track, "10 Minutes", today, which gives us all the information we need, as the article was written on January 24, 2010. Cartoon network freak (talk) 09:25, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • At ref [52], it talks about the music video; weak support for year of release.
 Done Changed source Cartoon network freak (talk) 14:28, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • At ref [53], years of releases is not obvious.
 Done Changed source Cartoon network freak (talk) 14:28, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • At ref [54], track is released but no year given.
 Done Changed source Cartoon network freak (talk) 14:28, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • At ref [56], talks music video; weak support.
 Done Changed source Cartoon network freak (talk) 14:28, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Changed source Cartoon network freak (talk) 14:28, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Shaidar cuebiyar: Responded to some of your comments already done by me. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 17:45, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer that you don't strike out my comments: there's at least three instances where you've struck out my comments but have not fully addressed the issues. You can strike out your own comments, if you wish.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 21:12, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Shaidar cuebiyar Unstroke all; sorry for that! You haven't answered my question regarding the Bulgarian peaks yet. I'm going to solve your other comments without the 'done'-mark when I'll have time. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 08:51, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Shaidar cuebiyar Now I have no time, but later I'm going to solve your other comments. I changed Bulgaria with Russia, as she has more chart positions there. Cartoon network freak (talk) 08:41, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Shaidar cuebiyar Done your complete comments! Cartoon network freak (talk) 11:40, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

With my issues resolved, I am now willing to support this FLC.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from AJona1992
Resolved comments from – jona ✉ 13:43, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • These were my edits to the article, I could not comment without fixing some grammatical errors.
  • According to the infobox Inna has 23 singles but the lead says 22?
  • I don't see why you need a source for when the album was released if they already have an article?
  • The notes needs to be clarified, saying "Sales for Hot as of May 2011" for each country does not help the reader identify where sales figures are from and when they were updated. You can simply just say "Worldwide (or any other country) sales figures for Hot as of May 2011".
  • Why is Airplay 100 and Romanian Top 100 italicized? – jona ✉ 16:01, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@AJona1992 Incorporated all your comments, besides the sources-problem, as FLS like Rihanna discography do also feature this. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 12:36, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXIST is not a valid argument, not sure why you continue to battle over this? Also, Daddy Yankee is an American reggaeton singer not Puerto Rican per WP:NATIONALITY, Puerto Rico is part of the United States so he is an American. The "registered" comment is unnecessary since the sentence worked fine without it. – jona ✉ 21:28, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@AJona1992 Done your additional comments. Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:19, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Everything looks good but French, Spanish, Italian, etc are not countries but languages. As of now, it reads as if the Spanish version of that song sold that many copies, not the actual track. – jona ✉ 14:05, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@AJona1992 Incorporated your other listings. Cartoon network freak (talk) 18:40, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note M needs to be fix, why is the United States abbreviated on Note T? – jona ✉ 19:36, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@AJona1992  Fixed Cartoon network freak (talk) 05:11, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Dan_arndt
  • The studio album table states that Hot was released 1 January 2010 however the article for Hot states it was released "in Poland on August 4, 2009 and in Russia on September 22, 2009." In either case the release date is not backed up with a cited reference.
 Done
I'm confused you now state it was released 1 January 2010 yet it charted in the Polish charts in September 2009 ??
 Done
  • Similarly I Am the Club Rocker states it was released 7 November 2011, whilst the article for I am the Club Rocker states it was released "September 19, 2011". Needs cited reference clarifying correct release date.
 Done
iTunes shows the electronic release on iTunes and I think that you're reliance on this as the official release date is flawed. Allmusic clearly confirms that the album was released in September 2011 not November 2011.
  • Footnote E states "Upon the release of Party Never Ends, a Japan-only reissue, Party Never Ends 2, was launched." This implies that Party Never Ends 2 was released 4 March 2013 however the reference indicates it was released July 10, 2013. Also the reference stated for footnote E is a CD sales site, and sales sites are not necessarily considered reliable sources.
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I word reword Footnote E to state "At the same time as the Japanese release of Party Never Ends on 3 July 2013, a Japan-only issue, Party Never Ends 2, containing ten additional tracks was also released."
 Done
  • The studio album table states that Inna was released 30 October 2015 however the article for the album states it was "released worldwide on July 23, 2015", which was the digital version Body And The Sun and the physical release INNA was released October 30, 2015. In either case you need to clarify and provide a cited reference for the release date.
 Done
I'm sorry but I'm still confused is Body And The Sun the same as INNA, if so then footnote G needs to be changed as Body And The Sun was released digitally worldwide on 23 July 2015 not just in Japan. Did the two have different tracks or were they just in a different order?
@Dan arndt: Body and the Sun was the album which was released first. It premiered in Japan as a Japanese-only version of the internationally released Inna, which was released months later. However, to promote Inna before its issue, the latter album was also released promotionally worldwide. Cartoon network freak (talk) 12:04, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • You need to go through the references to ensure that references to sales/e-commerce sites (such as Ref #8, #21, #24 are replaced with reliable sources. WP content guidelines prohibits linking to "Individual web pages that primarily exist to sell products or services."
Sorry, but I don't understand your request.
You need to provide alternative references for the release dates apart from record retail/e-sales sites.
@Dan arndt: Incorporated nearly all your comments. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 14:33, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Footnotes E & G replace 'launched' with 'issued' or 'released'
  • Ref#6 doesn't appear to link to the album charts. Based on the links it refers to the singles charts for "Love" and "Club Rocker" not Hot or I Am the Club Rocker.
  • Ref#37 doesn't appear to be working
@Dan arndt: Done everything apart the additional references, as there are no articles or such telling about these exact release dates; does it also work without them? Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 17:25, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You still haven't addressed the fact that you state Hot was released in January 2010 and yet it charted in September 2009, obviously it was released in 2009 not 2010. Also is Body and the Sun the same release as INNA just with a different title or is it a different release? Dan arndt (talk) 04:07, 17 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Dan arndt: Fixed the release date for Hot; Inna and Body and the Sun are the same album,but the latter one is its Japanese version. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 12:39, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cartoon network freak: still haven't addressed my concerns about the only references for some releases being e-sales sites (particularly Japanese releases), is there no information from the respective labels confirming the release date. Noting iTunes has already proven to be inaccurate in respect to the release of Hot. Dan arndt (talk) 01:52, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Nergaal

@Nergaal: Fixed. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 12:39, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sources

Sources look fine, and spot checks on 10 of the English language ones show no problems. - SchroCat (talk) 07:21, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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