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Golden Globe Cecil B. DeMille Award

Featured list candidates/Golden Globe Cecil B. DeMille Award/archive1

Nominator(s): BeatlesLedTV (talk) 01:13, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My George Harrison list just became featured and my Joy Division list has two supports so I'll go ahead and nominate my next list. My first non-song list, I found this list like this and was really bored so here we are. As always, I'm open to any comments or concerns anyone might have. Thanks and happy editing! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 01:13, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Jmnbqb (talk) 03:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

;Comments from Jmnbqb

Disclaimer: I don't have much experience with FLs but here's what I got:

In the opening paragraph, there's a redundancy in that it's mentioned twice that the first recipient was DeMille
Why was there not an award for 1976? That could be explained in the lead with the 2008 reason
- I have literally searched everyone for a reason. It doesn't say on the Golden Globes website for some reason and I can't find any outside articles that explain it either. I'll keep searching. Hopefully I can find out why. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 23:16, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think you need the comma in the Goldwyn sentence
When you sort the honorees, the 2 years for not being awarded are sorting randomly in the middle
This is picky (and it probably doesn't matter) but I notice that some of the descriptions end in periods when they're only fragments (like Stewart and Wallis)
- I just followed what the HFPA said about each individual. Also I think it looks better for consistency. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 23:16, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In the description for Goldwyn, Eastwood, Bacall, and Hackman, there's double quotes within the double quotes, not sure on the MOS but the inside quotes may need to be single
Warner Bros. isn't wiki linked under Wallis (it's wiki linked in another)
Harvard isn't wiki linked under Mirisch (it's wiki linked in another)
I think it should be a comma instead of a semicolon under Beatty

That's all I got. If you get a chance, I would appreciate a review on my FLC, Jmnbqb (talk) 05:33, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jmnbqb All done except for a few. Comments above. Thanks very much! And sure thing I'll check out your FLC! Also FYI we're not supposed to use header code on these pages (it says in the WP:FLC instructions) BeatlesLedTV (talk) 23:16, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Thanks, looks good, Jmnbqb (talk) 03:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

You can mention the total number of awardees in the infobox and prose.
Remove oxford comma in the second sentence.
Full stop missing from alt texts.

Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:38, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yashthepunisher All done. For some reason I can't get the statuette pic to stop being red but it's there. Thanks for the comments! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 17:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support Great work on the list. Also, if interested, please leave your comments at my ongoing FLC. Cheers! Yashthepunisher (talk) 18:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- No problem I'll get right to it! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 20:10, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from MWright96 (talk) 16:24, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

;Comment from MWright96

Looks good overall but please remove the Daily Mail citation per WP:DAILYMAIL and replace it with a alternative source. MWright96 (talk) 09:01, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MWright96 Done. Thanks very much! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 16:01, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support The only concern I had has been addressed. Good work. MWright96 (talk) 16:24, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Courcelles (talk) 00:56, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

*"with the exception being 1976 and 2008" You can't have two "the exception"s, this could use a rephrase.

- Changed it to just "exceptions" BeatlesLedTV (talk) 20:16, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What is sourcing the age column?
- That was there when I originally started expanding the list. There's only a couple sources that actually say the age of some recipients but the rest are just calculated from their birth year to when they received it. You want me to just remove the col? BeatlesLedTV (talk) 20:16, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yeah, I'd trash it if you can't easily source it. Courcelles (talk) 20:21, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - Courcelles Done. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 00:25, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Courcelles (talk) 19:20, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Courcelles Responded to your comments. Thanks very much for them! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 20:16, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support Courcelles (talk) 00:56, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 11:56, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Why not awarded in 1976?
- I've tried to find a reason for this but haven't. The Golden Globe website doesn't officially say for some reason. Honestly given up looking for a reason because I've searched everywhere. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 20:48, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Ok, no problem. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
" ceremony, the award was presented to him at the following year's ceremony" ceremony repeated too quickly.
"youngest honoree to receive the award" I don't think you need both "honoree" and "to receive the award", either just honoree, or "person to receive.."
" honoree of the award" ditto.
"in 2018.[6] As of 2018" quick repeat of 2018 looks and reads clunky...
Would be interested in seeing the nationalities of the recipients, of course most of them are from the United States, but just how biased is the award?
- Honestly don't think that's necessary. Almost every recipient has been American, except for a few. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 20:48, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's worth noting in the lead then, especially as this is an international award. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - The Rambling Man I've officially counted and there's been about ten honorees who were not Americans. Do you think that's notable enough to have a nationality column? BeatlesLedTV (talk) 20:52, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      - Given the award is for people in "the world of entertainment", and yet very few are from the "world" and just the United States, I'd say yes. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:54, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        The Rambling Man Done. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 21:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        Sortable list so link each nationality each time. Also many lists use the {{flag}} template for additional accessibility. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        The Rambling Man Linked everything. But how would the flag template work for people that are multiple nationalities, such as Danish-American, Canadian-American, etc.? BeatlesLedTV (talk) 02:02, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        The Rambling Man Changed the nationalities to flags. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 00:03, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also worth noting how many female recipients there have been.
There's a huge dependency on the primary source here, when I do these lists I tend to resort to primary references if I can't find anything anwyhere else in any reliable sources.

The Rambling Man (talk) 09:30, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man All done. Changed some recent recipients' refs; comments above. Definitely let me know what you think. Thanks very much! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 20:48, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Dudley

prestigiousness - I think this word is better avoided as it is often used to suggest pretentiousness. Why not just prestige?
I think you should state the number of awards by country.
Looks good. Dudley Miles (talk) 23:58, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Dudley Miles Done. Thanks very much! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 03:08, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support, although there is no logic to having UK and Scotland as different nationalities. A Scot was UK Prime MInister up to 2010. Dudley Miles (talk) 09:31, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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