Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/AIFF Player of the Year Awards/archive2

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AIFF Player of the Year Awards

Nominator(s): Drat8sub (talk) 05:52, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nominating this for featured list because I've improved the article with all required information, citations and structure. Improved according to the requirements of WP:FL. From previous experiences of nominations I believe it meets all of the FL criteria and has a scope of getting FL status. I welcome to all comments and suggestions regarding this nomination. Drat8sub (talk) 05:52, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I would like to inform that, I nominated this list previously in September 2020, but since then I was inactive here on Wikipedia. I have noticed several well experienced editors suggested and commented which I was unable to address, my apologies since it seems to me I've wasted their energy to some extent, since it's very tough here to manage FA, FL and GA noms log. But it's also nice to see that the editors themselves took up the task and improved it on each others suggestions. Good for the spirit of the community. So thanks to all of you. Drat8sub (talk) 06:06, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"Sunil Chhetri has won the award a record seven times, more than any other player" - well, if it's a record then obviously it's more than any other player, so you don't need to say both.........

Done

"Bembem Devi retained it in 2013, after the 2002–2012 halt ended" - "halt" isn't really the right word here. I would say "It was not award again until 2013, when Bembem Devi retained it"

Done

I don't think the multiple winners tables need to be sortable

Yes, I too think so. removed sorting, only linked.

They are still sortable....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:13, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done, @ChrisTheDude: my bad, did not remove the wikitable sorting then. :) Drat8sub (talk) 15:32, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Think that's it! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:14, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ChrisTheDude:, addressed all above. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 14:55, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:37, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Quick comments –

~~The lead has at least one inaccuracy that I can find. It says Bala Devi won the award twice when the table says she has won three times. Also, the years listed in the lead seem off.~~
~~In references from The Hindu, whether Sportstar or The Hindu is italicized are inconsistent. One style should be chosen for these sources and used throughout.~~ Giants2008 (Talk) 22:26, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Hello @Giants2008:, the above mentioned concerns are dealt with. Drat8sub (talk) 18:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Giants2008:, it has been more than 2 months since the nom. and few weeks since you have done the source review. I don't think that there much remained to rectify (let me know if any), if you think all is ok, will you kindly proceed with the needed process since I'm thinking of nominating other articles this month. Pinging @PresN: in case Giants is busy. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 10:55, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Drat8sub, unfortunately this nomination has only received a single full review, and we usually prefer to see more than that before we promote a list. I know its frustrating, especially since it's been waiting for a while; I'd recommend reaching out to any relevant wikiprojects, or reviewing other nominations with a link back to here to encourage reviews. Otherwise, you just have to wait for more reviewers to check out the nomination. --Pres N 19:34, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:

Naming - I see the lengthened version ("All India Football Federation's Player of the Year") appearing in some sources. WP:CONCISE is absolutely fine, but if it's in official use it should appear in the article.

Official name is AIFF Player of the Year, and per Common name.

Lead - no information about the current winners appear in the lead section.

Infoxbox gives you information about present winners. Lead..not necessarily need to include current winners, which is subjected to change every year. For stability of lede I prefer not to include.

Lead #2 - "presented to the best footballers in India" - are these awards considerate of all footballers playing in India, or are they exclusively for Indian nationals?

Obviously, this will be awarded to the best player in India, it's a award by a federation of a country not a regional federation or confederation, like SAFF, AFC or FIFA that foreign players will be included. And AIFF did not publish otherwise.

Comprehensiveness - Should the list be expanded to display the clubs these players were playing for during the designated periods? Should positions be listed?

No, as explained above, since country federation's award, showing club will give the perception that it was awarded for the club performance. National team weightage counts in it and along with NT club performance too. Secondly, since AIFF don't display club of the players who are awarded. Thus, which is not published there is no need to add such or we need not to speculate. Finally, earlier award was for year, now award is for season, so one cannot put club, it can be multiple club for players in a year.

Comprehensiveness #2 - information about the awards' calendar(s) or more specifically when are they being given out is not provided anywhere; there is also absence of any explanation given for the reasons behind the shifts in periods around 2018.

Which is not explained by AIFF or published and no sources has discussed, we no need to discuss the same here. The article is fine without this. (In my opinion, may be due to above reason of including club performace, we don't know, only AIFF knows.)

Overlinking - the All India Football Federation does not necessitate another inclusion in the see also section.

Done

Structure - only two categories are present and this could be expanded. Respublik (talk) 01:33, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done, added more suitable related categories.

@Respublik:, I appreciate you time and effort, addressed all your comments and worked accordingly wherever possible. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 18:22, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:31, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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