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- Nominator(s): Hey man im josh (talk) 21:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
This is my sixth Olympics medal table and I'm happy to be back at it again. I believe it's all encompassing, reflects the relevant information, and meets all of our criteria. As always, if there are any issues I'll be do my best to respond quickly and address all criticisms brought forth. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "were included as official medal events for the first time ever" => "were included as official medal events for the first time"
- "Also former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia" => "Two other former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia"
- "Athletes representing 64 NOCs received at least one medal, with 37 of them winning" - 37 athletes?
- "Meanwhile, Croatia,[21] Israel,[22] Malaysia,[23] Namibia,[24] Qatar,[25] and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals" - I think you can lose "meanwhile"
- That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
"were included as official medal events for the first time ever" -> "were included as official medal events for the first time"
– Good catch, done."Also former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia" -> "Two other former Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia"
– Yes, definitely better, done."Athletes representing 64 NOCs received at least one medal, with 37 of them winning" - 37 athletes?
– It's meant to represent that the NOCs received at least one gold medal. Well this is doing my brain in a bit... I've used this wording on several FLs now, but I can definitely see it both ways now. Agh, do you have any suggestions?
- I think "Athletes representing 64 NOCs received at least one medal, with 37 NOCs winning at least one gold medal" would work.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Done. I'll make the changes to my other FLs as well. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:35, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
"Meanwhile, Croatia,[21] Israel,[22] Malaysia,[23] Namibia,[24] Qatar,[25] and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals" - I think you can lose "meanwhile"
– Done.
- Thanks as always for the helpful review and tweaks ChrisTheDude!
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, and Slovenia competed independently, as opposed to as a part of Yugoslavia, for the first time following the breakup of Yugoslavia.
– based on the other dissolutions, breakups, and such, I don't see the need for "as opposed to as a part of Yugoslavia".and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals.
– why is this separate from the countries just listed?said to have intentionally dropped or thrown his medal
+but he threw it again.
– did he throw it the first time or no?- There were some misplaced periods, but I fixed those on my own accord.
Other than that, good work! Kline • talk • contribs 21:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
... based on the other dissolutions, breakups, and such, I don't see the need for "as opposed to as a part of Yugoslavia".
– So this is where it got kind of complicated for me. You see, Slovenia (in 1912) and Croatia (in 1900) actually competed as part of the Austrian NOC before. There's a bit of a complicated history with teams competing with / as part of Yugoslavia, and I thought by including that I was adding clarity. To be honest I could go either way, so if you think the article is better served by its removal, then I can go ahead and do so. I would like to find a different place to link Yugoslavia at the Olympics though if that's removed, as I think the article does provide some interesting and useful context.and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals. – why is this separate from the countries just listed?
– I'm sorry, I don't think I understand. Is this to do with me listing nations and putting the reference for said nation immediately after the punctuation (comma)? I typically do to avoid ref groups, and to make it clear which reference is relevant to said country/text, instead of putting it all at the end. The ref for that is at the end of the sentence because there's no punctuation to put it after and we don't put references in the middle of a sentence, so this has been my practice and hasn't been an issue in the past.said to have intentionally dropped or thrown his medal + but he threw it again. – did he throw it the first time or no?
– I think there was ambiguity when I was first writing it out and reading about it, but I felt more confident as I read more and more, especially based on the IOC ruling and writings. I left this ambiguous when I shouldn't have, and I've removed the dropped part given the sources used pretty clearly state he threw it.There were some misplaced periods, but I fixed those on my own accord.
– I did actually revert one of those, but the first one was definitely a mistake. It's intentional, meant to note that the gold that Lithuania won was actually also the first medal of any kind. It's been something that's been noted in other lists as well, and I've received feedback to separate it out, while also not including it in the following sentence to distinguish it while also avoiding making the sentences more clunky.
- Thanks for the review @Kline, I hope I've addressed your points. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh The Slovenia point was my fault as I read it with the comma, sorry about that. I'm not super concerned about the Yugoslavia thing now since you have explained and the rest have been addressed. Support. Kline • talk • contribs 18:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "It was also the first Olympic medal of any kind for Lithuania, Croatia, Israel, Malaysia Namibia, Qatar, and Slovenia won their nation's first Olympic medals." In that sentence it is saying first Olympic medal twice, I'd suggest deleting one of them. History6042😊 (Contact me) 15:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @History6042: Those were actually meant to be two separate sentences, but Kline mistakenly thought it was meant to be a comma. It now reads as two separate sentences, as it was originally meant to. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks for letting me know. History6042😊 (Contact me) 15:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @History6042: Those were actually meant to be two separate sentences, but Kline mistakenly thought it was meant to be a comma. It now reads as two separate sentences, as it was originally meant to. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- "South Africa, who had been excluded from the Olympics" -> "South Africa, which had been excluded from the Olympics". South Africa is not a person. History6042😊 (Contact me) 15:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @History6042: Fixed, thank you. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:46, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- "for its use of apartheid system in sports" -> "for its use of the apartheid system in sports". Addition of a definite article.
- Support, I couldn't find any other issues. History6042😊 (Contact me) 16:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Image review and comment
[edit]- File:Romas Ubartas by Augustas Didzgalvis.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Tie Break Tens Vienna 23.10.2016-51 (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Susi Susanti (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- Images have proper alt text, relevant to the article, and have suitable captions.
- Bosnia-Herzegovina, why is it hyphenated rather than being "Bosnia and Herzegovina"?
- @Hey man im josh: Here are my comments. Arconning (talk) 09:57, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry about the delay in replying Arconning, I actually don't have a good explanation for the Bosnia and Herzegovina. I've made the fix. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)