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This is a 2007 FA that was kept at FAR in 2010. I've identified a few issues with this article that bring it below the standards expected of a featured article. Pulling from my comment at TFAR, a brief skim of the article shows unreliable sources, including IMDb, being used in § Awards and nominations, failing criterion 1c. I also question the article's comprehensiveness (criterion 1b) if there are substantial-looking biographies of Wallace unused in the article and stuck in § Further reading. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC) (please Reply to icon mention me if you need my attention)[reply]

I wasn't aware of the sourcing problems, but would like to offer agreement on the comprehensiveness. I'm not an expert in this area of music, but I will say that I've read and come back to this article on multiple occasions and couldn't help but feel like this FA was old and/or lacking for a performer who, in a very short career, defined an era of rap. 83.4k bytes for this guy? Is that really it? I doubt it, but I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough to definitively say no, just questionable. mftp dan oops 16:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Issues raised in the review section include sourcing and comprehensiveness. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some notes:

  • I conducted a copyedit, mostly to remove extra words like "however" and some phrasing. Feel free to revert if not helpful and let me know the concerns below.
  • "Sullivan, Randall (2014)" is listed in the bibliography but not used as a source. This should be rectified.
  • The "Vocals" section falls into the "X said Y" pattern; WP:RECEPTION might help with ideas on how to reformat this.
  • No other concerns. This is close to a keep. Z1720 (talk) 00:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720: both fixed. 750h+ 02:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see Z has done much of the heavy lifting for me already. I see nothing that I couldn't fix myself. If I'm being pedantic, there's a wording preference here, a link change there...nothing substantial at this point. Excellent work.
The only thing I have to ask is: why are we using "known professionally as the Notorious B.I.G., and also by the stage name Biggie Smalls"? Are they not both stage names? mftp dan oops 03:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MFTP Dan: fixed. 750h+ 03:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do we absolutely have to keep the redlink that is John Van Nest? I know there are scenarios to keep them but I'm not sure this is one of them. mftp dan oops 03:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
removed @MFTP Dan: 750h+ 03:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good. I have a few other concerns here and there, but I'll get to them tomorrow afternoon. We could probably keep this now and it'd be no big deal if it's a hurry to get this closed, but I have minor nitpicks here and there. mftp dan oops 03:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MFTP Dan: do you feel to list your remaining concerns or? 750h+ 01:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The impression I get from the infobox stating Evans and Biggie separated in 1996 is that it was a legal proceeding, but this is not covered in the article. Is that not what the infobox purpose for the "sep." is? The legal term of separated?
Cease's quote regarding "Who Shot Ya?" is a little lengthy for my liking and I'd prefer paraphrasing, but other than that, I'm not seeing much left that couldn't just be done on the fly. No need to hold it open any longer, it's clearly up to snuff. mftp dan oops 02:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MFTP Dan: fixed. 750h+ 02:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720: any remaining comments? 750h+ 10:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep no further concerns. Z1720 (talk) 20:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]