Wikipedia:Featured article review/John Day (printer)/archive1

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The article was kept 12:30, 12 January 2008.

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John Day (printer)

WikiProject Biography notified; inactive creator PRiis notified

This article, promoted to FA almost three years ago and scheduled to appear as today's featured article on January 10, no longer meets the criteria. It possibly fails 1b, because the DNB entry is some 2200 words and lists around fifteen sources, while this article is about 1000 words and only lists one source other than the DNB. It very possibly fails 1c: DNB states Day "was married twice, and had thirteen children by each marriage", while this article says he "married twice and had twenty-four children". It certainly fails 2c in its total lack of footnotes. Biruitorul (talk) 04:05, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

User:BuddingJournalist and I have busily brushed this into shape (reffed and expanded), ready for the main page. I was about to urge that the FAR tag might be removed before the article went on show tomorrow, but now I've noticed it's just been de-scheduled to go on the front page (sigh). Hmm, needn't have rushed. qp10qp (talk) 04:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• Move to close Quite a turnabout I must say! Two things: (1) I think you've removed the snippet about his two wives and many children, concentrating on his professional career, but I see no reason why it shouldn't be put back. (2) "the largest publishing project undertaken in England to that time." Yes, quite likely, presumably from King (2006)? Biruitorul's source, DNB, says "...we lack any precise information about the production process". Is everyone agreed that such a definite assessment can be made? DrKiernan (talk) 13:56, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • 1) Added that back in with a ref.
  • 2) Yeah, that was in the original FA version, but I couldn't find it in either the DNB or Evenden sources. It certainly makes sense, but I commented it out for now. If a source is found later, it can always be added back.
  • I think this is pretty much good to go and could probably be closed. BuddingJournalist 21:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for reffing the children. I had removed it because I couldn't find refs (don't have DNB) and because of the objection above to the accuracy of the information. qp10qp (talk) 21:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I've put in a ref to the claim about the size of the Book of Martyrs project, from Hattaway. I don't know if the DNB article was written before King did all his research, which is overwhelming—though, of course, sixteenth-century information about anything is necessarily patchy. qp10qp (talk) 22:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

• Agree - close. I think it will be agreed this was in no shape to be an FA at the close of 2007, but now it's eminently qualified. Very impressive work by the pair who made this happen. Biruitorul (talk) 00:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

More excellent from qp10qp and BJ. Closing. Marskell (talk) 12:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

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