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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 29 July 2019 [1].


Nominator(s): Ergo Sum 03:35, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a short but comprehensive article about William McSherry, a Jesuit who was president of Georgetown University and is remembered for having arranged the 1838 Jesuit slave sale. Thomas F. Mulledy was akin to his partner-in-crime for this sale, and that article was recently promoted to FA; it is something of a companion article. McSherry later became the leader of the Jesuits in the United States. Ergo Sum 03:35, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

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Sources review

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  • No spotchecks carried out
  • Links to sources are all working
  • Formats: a couple of italicisation issues: "City of Charles Town, West Virginia" (ref 3) and "Georgetown Slavery Archive" (ref 36) are publishers, not websites, and should not be in italic form
  • Quality and reliability: the sources appear well chosen, and to meet the required criteria for quality and reliability.

Brianboulton (talk) 11:58, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the source review. Ergo Sum 13:46, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support from The Rambling Man

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  • Support I reviewed this at GAN and considered at the time that it was beyond that quality already. I'm satisfied it meets all the FAC criteria. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 09:31, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator notes

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I've added this to the Urgents list but, having been open nearly a month, it will be archived soon if it does not attract additional attention. --Laser brain (talk) 10:55, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Cas Liber

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Taking a look now...

  • It is a little jarring in the Early life section how one sentence we're talking about how Anne married Richard and the next is William following his brothers to college. However I can't see a way of reorganising the section as is. Is there any other biographical info? Given his age I thought I'd ask. If none this is not a deal-breaker....
  • He arrived at Georgetown on December 22, 1828 - do we know in what condition? i.e. you've mentioned the voyage was treacherous, which leaves me curious.....
    • Again, I can't seem to find any additional detail. The voyage was, indeed, treacherous, so one can assume that it was tiring and nerve-racking, but those would be assumptions. Ergo Sum 19:10, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • In 1839, McSherry was permitted to resign the presidency due to his [significantly deteriorated] health. - why not just "poor" or "worsening"?

Other than that, a nice read and on track to FA-hood methinks Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:06, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ok all good now (on comprehensiveness and prose) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:09, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Ceoil

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Will take a look this weekend. Ceoil (talk) 09:35, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • and was introduced to Richard in the United States, where they married on July 31, 1791: Since you don't say met, can use the word "arranged"
  • he rediscovered in the Jesuit archives the Relatio Itineris by Andrew White - was this a personal rediscovey of known text or did he unearth a previously lost archive - ie say "found the previously lost/forgoten"
  • "brought to light" is colloquial
  • there are a few long sentences that would have more narrative or dramatic impact if split up & expanded upon;
  • Eventually, he left for the United States from the port of Livorno on a treacherous voyage that lated 171 days, and caused some in the United States to fear that the three Jesuits aboard had perished. - here the detail of "from the port of Livorno" as acquardly placed, bogs the reader down and takes from the excitement potential of the latter parts of these claims. Would tighten.
These are nitpicks that I trust Ergo to address; have read through and edited otherwise. Support. Ceoil (talk) 20:20, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • As one of the first Americans to complete the traditional Jesuit course of training - should this just be "first American trained as a Jesuit"? Otherwise, yep, all points met. Ceoil (talk) 06:16, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • The two are actually different in an important way. There were Americans who had been admitted as Jesuits without undergoing the full training that their Continental counterparts did. McSherry was one of the first to complete the full course. Ergo Sum 14:22, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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