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Twenty-cent piece (United States coin) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Wehwalt (talk) 13:26, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured article because… I believe it meets the criteria. The twenty-cent piece was one of those mistakes that Congress and the Mint just didn't learn from. Not only did they make it too similar in size to the quarter, they used the same design for one side! It did not last long, which may account for a similar mistake being made a hundred years later with the Anthony dollar, or as one source called it "Susie-Bucks". With that dubious note (which may be seen in the references), enjoy.Wehwalt (talk) 13:26, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Images are fine, captions are good. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:52, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you. I plan to retake the patterns the next time I get to Colorado Springs. Very grateful for your help, as always :) --Wehwalt (talk) 15:57, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support from Crisco 1492, with a couple nitpicks
- Far West - perhaps a link would help?
- Far West was the contemporary term for the West Coast, "West" would be ambiguous. I think it's self-explanatory to today's reader.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:04, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair enough
- Far West was the contemporary term for the West Coast, "West" would be ambiguous. I think it's self-explanatory to today's reader.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:04, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- the obverse, or "heads", side of both coins were - Looks like a subject/verb agreement issue
- fractional currency - this was recently moved; I'd avoid the redirect if possible
- I've copyedited. Be sure to double-check. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:38, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for the review and support. I think I've caught everything and have looked over your c/e, which is fine.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:21, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support Comments
- What was the size differential between the quarter and the 20-cent piece? Since all of the silver coinage of the period had similar obverses, the cause for confusion isn't real clear unless they were nearly the same size. Otherwise well done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:16, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- 2.3 mm (24.3 vs 22). By way of comparison the diff between the Susan B and the quarter was 2.2 mm (26.5 to 24.3). I will add something when on my laptop later.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:06, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- And thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I've done that now. Thanks again for the comment. Very helpful.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:45, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Glad to help out; like I've been saying sometimes a pair of not-so-knowledgeable eyes can be really useful in proofing an article.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:56, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I think you've proved your point. The similarity in size was so obvious I didn't mention it. Now I have. Fortunately, there are good coin reference books. Thanks again for the review and support.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Glad to help out; like I've been saying sometimes a pair of not-so-knowledgeable eyes can be really useful in proofing an article.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:56, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I've done that now. Thanks again for the comment. Very helpful.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:45, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- And thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support
Comments - You mention that small change didn't circulate in the West. I've heard that before, but never heard a good explanation. Do you know why?
- The bottom line is that there were no mints striking copper coins available to the West, and so the monetary system evolved without them. Who would bring a load of pennies to the West Coast? I'll look to see if Taxay has anything to say, or Lange.
- No big deal if you can't find it. I just thought it would help explain this point that seems odd to modern readers (and I was curious, myself!)
- The bottom line is that there were no mints striking copper coins available to the West, and so the monetary system evolved without them. Who would bring a load of pennies to the West Coast? I'll look to see if Taxay has anything to say, or Lange.
- I added a couple of hyphens.
- "Despite the fact that the Mint..." might be better as "Although the Mint..."
- "The twenty-cent piece was abolished by Congress..." might be better as "Congress abolished the twenty-cent piece..."
- Your first external link has an odd format.
- That's all. Nice article on an unloved coin. --Coemgenus (talk) 13:34, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. I've done your other comments, still looking on the California stuff.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:04, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed to support. If you find out anything about base metal coins in the West, it would be interesting, but it reads like an FA to me even without it. --Coemgenus (talk) 12:01, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I looked. They discuss the situation (Taxay, Carothers, Lange) rather than how it came about, and they really discuss paper money more than the minor coins. Thank you for the review and support--Wehwalt (talk) 17:03, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed to support. If you find out anything about base metal coins in the West, it would be interesting, but it reads like an FA to me even without it. --Coemgenus (talk) 12:01, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. I've done your other comments, still looking on the California stuff.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:04, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Graham Colm (talk) 15:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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