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The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 00:04, 6 January 2011 [1].

Suillus spraguei

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Nominator(s): Sasata (talk) 06:23, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suillus spraguei is an attractive, edible mushroom of eastern North America and eastern Asia. It became a GA over a year ago and I recently decided to revisit and see what I could do to help it "go all the way". I think it's comparable in quality to the other mushroom FAs; compare Suillus brevipes for an example in the same genus. My typing hands await your suggestions and comments. Sasata (talk) 06:23, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • You have to handle a complex set of dates, but it seems that "a formal scientific description was not published until 1872 when American mycologist Charles Horton Peck named the species Boletus pictus." is incorrect, since Peck's name was published in 1873.
  • If it was transferred to Suillus in 1898, why is Suillus pictus dated to 1964 in the taxobox?
  • Good catch. I was using information from two sources (MycoBank vs. Palm and Stewart, 1986) with conflicting information on the original publication date for this name. Although I usually use MycoBank or Fungorum for synonymy data, in this case I think they got it wrong, and so have used synonymy as given by P&S, but have noted the other positions in a footnote. I'll contact MycoBank and let them know as well so they can update their database. Sasata (talk) 07:53, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is pretty obvious, but perhaps clarify that spraguei refers to Sprague?
  • Isn't there a special term for a disjunct eastern Asian – eastern North American distribution?
  • "In North America, its range extends from eastern Canada (Nova Scotia),[16] south to Mexico (Coahuila and Durango).[29] In the United States, the distribution extends west to Minnesota.[15]"—I think Minnesota extends further north than Nova Scotia. Are there no further details on range? Does it occur in Florida? Where is the western limit between Minnesota and Coahuila?

Ucucha 19:57, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sources: JSTOR 2656103 should be used; says spraguei is paraphyletic with respect to decipiens. Web of Science list two other sources that are not used in the article, but that seem less interesting (old molecular studies). Ucucha 10:39, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I added your suggested Mueller 2001 as a supplementary ref, but it's mostly the same info as the biogeography paper published the year before by the essentially the same authors (Wu 2000) that focussed more specifically on Suillus. Sasata (talk) 17:22, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from me.
J Milburn (talk) 16:35, 29 December 2010 (UTC)}}[reply]

Comments from J Milburn-

  • "and is synonymous with" is an odd phrase- it's the name that's synonymous with it, not the mushroom itself.
  • "although opinions about to its quality vary." Rephrase?
  • "the species name" apostrophe
  • "be a new species they named Boletus murraii" which?
  • "although this was later considered to be merely a younger version of their Boletus spraguei" by whom?
  • "The specific epithet pictus means "painted" or "colored"." Perhaps mention that where you talk about the name pictus? If you want that paragraph to be longer, perhaps move the mention of what spraguei refers to to there?
  • "The stem is 4 to 12 cm (1.6 to 4.7 in) long, and 1 to 2.5 cm (0.4 to 1.0 in) thick, roughly cylindrical in shape, or sometimes with the bulbous bottom so as to be somewhat club-shaped.[16][15]" a bulbous bottom? Also, reorder refs
  • "grayish ground color" What does that term mean?
  • "injured.[16][12]" reorder
  • "unsymmetrical" asymmetrical?
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Support. Great as usual, I've no doubt you'll deal with my small concerns Dealt with. Researching that taxonomic history and rendering it comprehensible is an impressive feat by itself. J Milburn (talk) 22:23, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sources comment: All sources look OK, verification spotchecks carried out. Brianboulton (talk) 23:37, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The ring is white in the lead and grey in the description.
  • tested with chemical tests — repeat of tested/tests
  • ammonium hydroxide — personally I'd prefer ammonia solution, because that's more accurate, but not a big deal
  • more brownish — "browner"?
  • Thanks Jim, I changed all but the last; I think there's a subtle distinction between browner and more brownish (my wife assures me it's true!) and didn't want to deviate from the intent of the source. Sasata (talk) 17:22, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dab/EL check - no dabs or dead external links. --PresN 22:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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