Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/SMS Bayern (1915)/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 18:13, 1 May 2011 [1].

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SMS Bayern (1915)

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Nominator(s): Parsecboy (talk) 00:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Another one of my German battleship articles, this one passed a GA review in August 2009 and a WP:MILHIST A-class review in Janaury 2011 (see here for the ACR). I believe the article is at or close to meeting the FA criteria and look forward to working with reviewers in ensuring the high-quality of this article. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to review the article. Parsecboy (talk) 00:40, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Source review

• Be consistent in whether locations are linked in references - most are, but Oxford is not
• Be consistent in whether you provide states for US locations
• The Battleships portal appears twice. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
  • All fixed. Parsecboy (talk) 10:08, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Image review

• Can you make it clearer what is meant by "protection scheme", and also what the numbers mean?
  • I added a new caption - is this clearer now? Parsecboy (talk) 10:08, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
• "German Warships of World War I" - is this a pamphlet, a book, a collection...? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
  • This is the same as here - they were wartime recognition images distributed to ships' crews. Thanks for reviewing the images and sources. Parsecboy (talk) 10:08, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

• Please add, in a footnote, that SMS abbreviates Seiner Majestät Schiff which translates to "His Majesty's Ship". MisterBee1966 (talk) 07:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Added. Parsecboy (talk) 11:33, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
• The caption of the first image on the left it reads "Armor layout for Bayern; the numbers represent the armor thickness in each area." Please add the units, mm? MisterBee1966 (talk) 07:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Added. Parsecboy (talk) 11:33, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
• Can you check on "Kiel Fördeklub" or is it "Kiel Förderklub". The second would make more sense but I am unsure MisterBee1966 (talk) 07:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Gröner says "Fördeklub" - looking at simple google searches it seems to be spelled both ways. Parsecboy (talk) 11:33, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
• Support nice read! MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
• Support—Good looking article and my primary concerns were addressed.—RJH (talk)

  Comment—It looks pretty good and I didn't see any major flaws. A couple of minor points:

  • "Her main armament consisted of eight 38 cm (15 in) guns in four turrets, which was a significant improvement over the preceding König's ten 30.5 cm (12 inch) guns." This sentence should clarify (for the casual reader) in what sense this is a significant improvement, since the number of guns have decreased.
  • Is there any information about how much this ship cost to build?

  Thanks. Regards, RJH (talk) 20:31, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

  • I added a note explaining the superiority of the 38 cm gun, and the cost is already in the article (1st para of the "Construction" section). Parsecboy (talk) 11:06, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
    • Thank you. Was the rate of fire about the same?—RJH (talk)
      • In general, German ships were capable of around 3 rounds per minute per gun, though in combat (such as at Jutland), they averaged closer to one round per minute. The British were somewhat slower in training, but their combat speed was generally about the same (1 round per minute per gun). Parsecboy (talk) 20:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Support on prose per standard disclaimer, having reviewed the changes made since I reviewed this for A-class. - Dank (push to talk) 01:30, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Support Comments

• What's a Flak gun?
• Link fuel oil and boiler, be sure the latter is to water-tube boiler.
• This is awkward: during which the forward torpedo tube room was removed and turned into a watertight compartment I presume that you mean that the torpedo tubes and associated equipment were removed and the torpedo ports were sealed?
• Add the ship's beam to the descriptive paragraph.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:48, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Should all be fixed, thanks Sturm. Parsecboy (talk) 11:01, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

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