Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Rainbow pitta/archive1

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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 11:36, 14 August 2017 [1].

Rainbow pitta

Nominator(s): Sabine's Sunbird talk 09:26, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yet another WP:BIRD, this one a jewel of an Australian species. I never even really planned to write it but I photocopied the wrong pages at the library. Oh well, turned out to be a great mistake as its lovely. It's been picked over at GAN so should be good to go. Enjoy! Sabine's Sunbird talk 09:26, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Image review from Adityavagarwal

There are ~~three~~ four images (~~two~~ three bird images and a range map). All the three are properly licensed and also have a description template. No issues, good to go! Adityavagarwal (talk) 09:53, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from FunkMonk

I'll add comments as I read along. FunkMonk (talk) 01:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"The species was once treated as the same species as the noisy pitta of eastern Australia" As a subspecies, or as identical?

Subspecies, added. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Could a cladogram be added?

I'll see what I can do. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The photos dont show the legs and the tail well, perhaps this photo of a study skin could be added:[2] Or even this low res photo of a live specimen:[3]

Put the skin up, the low res one was taken out at GAN because the original website it was posted on went dead (we really need a way of fixing that problem). Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, might want to left-align the skin, the two images now clutter a bit under the taxobox. As for the broken link, it is fairly easy to find archived versions[4] with the Wayback Machine. FunkMonk (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What does Pitta mean?

I personally think it's sufficient that it's covered at Pitta, but I can put it in if you insist. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessary as such, but I was asked about the meaning of the genus name during the Guadeloupe amazon FAC, so others might wonder. FunkMonk (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"per hectare." This could get a conversion.
"Females weigh slightly more, 67 g (2.4 oz), on average than males, 62 g (2.2 oz)." This is confusingly structured. Why not just say something like "Females weigh X, which is slightly more than males, which weigh Y.

Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if it could be mentioned which subspecies are depicted.

Done. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't the subspecies be listed in the taxobox?

It's not compulsory and I'm against it personally. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to push this, but I wonder why? FunkMonk (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Too much gets crammed into taxoboxes (synonyms, range maps, child taxa) and it really pushes down images and messes up the page layout when you look at the page on a large screen. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"The tail is olive-green with a black base and the uppertail coverts and sometimes has a" Something seems to be mssing.

Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"pink legs, brown eye" Why is legs plural but eye singular?

Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"and is the only species of pitta endemic to Australia, from sea-level to 380 m (1,250 ft)." The part about elevation seems a bit tacked on (in a condusing way), and unrelated to the rest of the sentence. Could it be placed elsewhere in the section, or made into its own section?

restructured Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

" It can be difficult to detect during the post-breeding season, as it is silent during the annual moult, and generally shy throughout the year." What does this have to do with distribution?

I fixed this by explaining how that shyness means its movements are hard to understand. Sabine's Sunbird talk 04:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"and associated soft call" What is a "soft call"?

Reworded. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"The rainbow pitta is unusual in the avifauna in its range" Among the avifauna?

Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"insects taken include cockroaches, beetles, ants, caterpillars and grasshoppers, and arthropods include centipedes, spiders and millipedes" You should say "and other arthropods include", since insects are arthropods as well.

Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"The diet consists mainly of insects, arthropods" Likewise.

Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"as the breeding season seems to be correlated with the availability of earthworms, a major part of the diet of both nestlings and adults during the breeding season." Perhaps say "during this time" inetad of the second "breeding season".

Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"and are placed from nests used earlier that season." What does "placed from" mean?

Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"two out of four closely studied nests relaid." Were relaid?

Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"four glossy cream eggs" This is only mentioned in the intro.

Removed from lead, wasn't really supported by my sources. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I only see two unaddressed issues (conversion of hectare and left alignment of stuffed specimen), then I should be ready to support. FunkMonk (talk) 20:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I need to work out how that hectrae conversion works. Sabine's Sunbird talk 09:24, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to do it:[5] FunkMonk (talk) 10:03, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Converted. Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:29, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support - with that last minor fix, everything looks good. FunkMonk (talk) 19:59, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source review from Ealdgyth

I randomly googled three sentences and nothing showed up except mirrors. Earwig's tool shows no copyright violations.

Otherwise everything looks good. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:40, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

- Thanks Sabine's Sunbird talk 17:49, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Dank

Support on prose per my standard disclaimer. Well done. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 03:34, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the edits. Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:50, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support from Casliber

Taking a look now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:43, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~I'd link monsoon in the lead.~~

Done Sabine's Sunbird talk 17:49, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~I'd link sedentary.~~

Done Sabine's Sunbird talk 17:49, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can't see anything else prose or comprehensiveness-wise, so supporting now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:52, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Jim. I made one minor MoS edit, otherwise nothing significant to fix Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:28, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 11:36, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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