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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 11:22, 25 August 2015 [1].

Paterson Clarence Hughes

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Nominator(s): Ian Rose (talk) 09:33, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pat Hughes was the highest-scoring Australian ace in the Battle of Britain, achieving seventeen victories in less than two months of combat. Beyond the air fighting, though, this is a bit of a love story, as Hughes' English bride Kay figures prominently in the key sources. Thanks Cliftonian, AustralianRupert and Anotherclown for their helpful comments at the recent GA and Milhist A-Class reviews, and in advance to everyone who stops by here. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:33, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

Support—I reviewed and passed this for GA and am comfortable supporting it for FA as well. It is well-written, properly and clearly sourced and laid out, and well illustrated. Images are all PD and properly licenced. The foe-by-foe combat record is a great touch. Thank you, Ian, for this fine article on a fine man. —  Cliftonian (talk)  02:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, John -- I was fortunate in that Australian Air Aces presented just such a table, and other sources provided additional verification for each result. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 10:27, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from SchroCat

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Excellent article of very high standard; not much for me to comment on, and I'm inclined to support in its current state, but a few things for you to look at first, even if you don’t change anything:

Early life

  • "young Pat": A little relaxed – especially with the use of his first name

Early RAF service

  • You use the name Pat Hughes in the quote too: this could be trimmed to Hughes
    • Done.

Legacy

  • "Flying Officer Butch had run out of the mess": FOB ran out of the mess
  • You could also link to mess too, for some who don't know military parlance
    • Done both.

Combat record

  • Is there any need to columns saying RAF and Spitfire, as these are constant? You could have an introductory sentence before the table with this
    • A fair point and one that occurred to me as well (I think the table was in this form when I discovered the article). I thought it might be worth leaving the "Flying" column as some tables like this list the aircraft serial number for each victory, and although I don't have that info in all cases for Hughes, it may come to light some time. There'd certainly be no harm in removing the "Service" column though, as there's nothing more to be added to that (not even unit, as all victories were with 234 Sqn).
  • It may be worth a word of explanation as to why there are two entries on the table that are un-numbered in the first column, and possibly to put an en dash in there to show it's meant to be un-numbered. Just a thought, anyway.
    • The main source, Newton, just left them blank, but I don't mind adding the dash if you think it works better.
      • I think that's possibly a good idea - people may think that the blanks are later additions, or need to have their numbering re-jigged, without realising exactly why they are blank. - SchroCat (talk) 14:05, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's it from me – an excellent and interesting read and thanks for the nudge to read it. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 10:13, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for stopping by, Schro! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:50, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support: I've seen this one develop through B class, GA and then ACR. I've really enjoyed reading this article and seeing it get steadily better. I believe that it is up to Ian's usual standard now, but have the following comments by way of a review: AustralianRupert (talk) 02:32, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • there are no dabs, and the external links all work;
  • I believe the article is well written and nothing stood out to me as being grammatically incorrect;
  • Distinguished Flying Cross is a duplicate link in the lead, but it is probably acceptable in the situation (i.e. the post nominal and then the first full mention);
  • the article is well referenced, using reliable sources and seems broad in its referencing base and coverage. Nothing stands out as unsourced to me;
  • the images all have alt text;
  • I wonder if the word "fitter" should be linked;
    • Done.
  • source review: I checked Garrison p. 140 and p. 35 and was happy that they support the information for which they are used as citations;
  • the web citation to "Hughes, Paterson Clarence – Casualty File" probably could have the National Archives listed as the publisher;
    • Done.
  • "Cooma-Monaro Shire Council": potentially should have an endash;
    • Done.
  • in the Notes, the link to the Australian War Memorial appears in Ref # 72, but it should appear on first mention (Ref # 71).
  • Support
    • I reviewed at ACR and believe it meets the FAC criteria.
    • Ref spot checks:
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