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The article was promoted by GrahamColm 11:36, 22 July 2012 [1].

Nickel (United States coin)

Featured article candidates/Nickel (United States coin)/archive1

Nominator(s): Wehwalt (talk) 14:50, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because... I think it meets the criteria. The nickel is a major workhorse of the economy, and costs more than twice its face value to make. Enjoy.Wehwalt (talk) 14:50, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:42, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doubleday and Co or just Doubleday?

And Co. I let the template put in the full stop. Yes, I know it's unusual, as is the Garden City location, that's an unusual book. I think it was a giveaway item, mostly, though it is certainly a fine and rather scholarly book. It's not copyrighted.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:48, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Frazier: formatting
Be consistent in whether you provide publisher and location for magazines/journals
Use a consistent date format
United States Mint or The United States Mint?
Usually see USA Today instead of all-caps. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:42, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Those things are done except Doubleday as noted. Thank you. I had put a hidden note in the reference.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:00, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: Supported below reading through the article, feel free to revert my copyediting. Looks good thus far, very accessible.
In the third paragraph of the lead, three consecutive sentences start with "In..."
Have you thought about providing modern-day equivalents for the sums of money?
"for melting and restriking into US coin" Should it be coin or coinage here?
I suggest linking Grain (unit).
"and if the nickel was gold-plated" Should this be subjunctive? Mark Arsten (talk) 04:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking. I generally do not favor modern day equivalents, simply because I really don't believe in them. I've been convinced by Fifelfoo that they are better left out, you can't compare eras where even the middle class had two or three live in servants with today. I'll wait until you're off the article before attempting fixes of the other things.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:32, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, not a problem with the equivalents. I'm signing off now, no worries about edit conflicts. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:42, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the changes you've suggested. Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Few nickels had circulated in the West before the 1880s" Might want to clarify or link West here.
"Clarence Hobbs of the Hobbs Manufacturing Company, of Worcester, Massachusetts," Is the company's location relevant here? *"The last Buffalo nickels were struck in April 1938, at the Denver Mint, the only mint to strike them that year." Do you need the first comma here? Mark Arsten (talk) 16:07, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done those.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:16, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Alright, I'm satisfied that this meets FA quality as best as I can tell. I can't speak to completeness, but otherwise this looks fine. In other words, up to your usual standards of top-notch work. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:18, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the review and the nice comments.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:29, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by PumpkinSky
- There is section on the cost of the coin, which discusses alternatives to the current metal make of the coin. But this does not mention the moves to get rid of the nickel (same situation with the US penny exists too). Perhaps this option could be mentioned.
- FN 32 "^ Yeoman 2011, p. 109–110." should be pp not p.
- PumpkinSky talk 12:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The penny, I've seen info about that, the nickel not as much, except in Canada, where there is at least some effort on. The other, I've fixed. Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments just minor spelling errors

"A depicition of Clark" spelling error there
donomination → denomination – Lemonade51 (talk) 17:05, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support now PumpkinSky talk 23:28, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Image check images look good. PumpkinSky talk 23:28, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support: I have reviewed many of the articles in the American coinage series, a project which still seems to have plenty of life left in it. Only a few relatively minor issues to raise, which won't affect support:-

Background

Eckfeldt recalls Washington supplying silver bullion for the half dismes. But later you say "By legend, President Washington supplied silverware ... for the coins". Two slightly different versions.

Washington supplying bullion for the half dismes differs from the idea of "silverware at Mount Vernon". One is considerably more romantic. Eckfeldt never mentioned the silverware in particular, as far as I can tell, though sources on him are scant (if they were not, I'd be moving him towards FA).

"coinage [singular] was being heavily exported, as they [plural]..."
"the half dime ceased to be struck after 1805. It was not struck again until 1829;..." I imagine a few words could be saved here.
Fourth paragraph, second sentence: "Also in 1837..." Nothing else is attributed to 1837; I would remove "also".

Inception

Give dates for the Civil War, and maybe specifically identify it (American Civil War). (You'd be surprised how ignorant we are, over here).
The Clark cock-up is well explained here (quite hilarious!), but I was a bit mystified by the cryptic reference to this affair in the lead, so maybe add a word or two there?
"This made the new coin heavy, in terms of weight per $.01 of face value, to the three-cent copper-nickel coin." There appears to be a word or two missing; "...compared to the three-cent copper-nickel coin" ?

Growth of the nickel in commerce

"That year, Mint Director George E. Roberts called on Congress that year..." Definitely some repetition there

Buffalo or Indian Head (1913–1938)

I had some difficulty in distinguishing between MacVeagh father and MacVeigh son. For example, which MacVeagh wrote: "Tell him that of the three sketches..." etc? Do all the references to MacVeagh after the blockquote refer to Secretary MacVeagh? Needs to be clarified.

Design and name controversies

What's the difference between a buffalo and a bison? Schoolboy answer: You can't wash in a buffalo. (Ignore this)

Western Journey commemoratives (2004–2005)

Why did the Mint approach Rep. Cantor? What special powers or authority did he have?
"...followed by a depiction of a keelboat like that used by the Expedition by Mint sculptor-engraver Al Maletsky." Needs a bit of work to avoid the impression that Maletsky was a member of the Lewis and Clark Expedition.

Thanks for the comments and the support. Actually, I've gotten through most of the 20th century coins ... I will make the changes Wednesday when I have better internet.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:04, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good work. I understand that you are cruising at the moment, so pick these up when you can. Brianboulton (talk) 18:25, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've got those done. Unfortunately, the source doesn't say on the Cantor issue. I'll do some hunting, but it may be one of those things where they had a reason, but they would rather not say.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:16, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy with the changes you've made. Pity about Cantor, but never mind. I'm sorry you couldn't raise a smile at my "joke" (ho ho ho). Brianboulton (talk) 09:09, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did have a smile at it, I must say. I will check my paper references after I get home and see if they shed any light. I'd like to know too, and with Cantor a significant figure, it would be nice to know.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:41, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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