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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was promoted by Karanacs 18:51, 3 November 2009 [1].
- Nominator(s): Algorerhythms (talk) 22:16, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured article because I think it meets the criteria. I've attempted to address all the concerns brought up at the first FAC, and I've addressed everything brought up at the second FAC (there weren't many comments...), so I've decided to try again. - Algorerhythms (talk) 22:16, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Images checked in previous FAC; please let us know if they have changed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- The US Route abbreviations are defined twice.
- I've removed the second definition.
- County Route 73/73?
- Yes, County Route 73/73 is the designation of the former route from
Green Ridge State ForestCooper's Rock State Forest to Bruceton Mills.
- Yes, County Route 73/73 is the designation of the former route from
- Exit #10 - try exit 10 instead?
- Changed.
- All the Exit 10s in the RD should be lowercased. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:03, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed.
- All the Exit 10s in the RD should be lowercased. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:03, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Changed.
- WV xx currently violates WP:USSH. Note that there is a slightly similar situation currently being discussed at WT:USRD.
- What would be the correct abbreviation to use, then?
- Route xx. That being said, pay attention to WT:USRD just in case it changes in the next few days. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:02, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I've changed the abbreviations in the text to the "Route xx" form. The abbreviations in the exit list haven't changed, as most of them are placed there by the jct template. - Algorerhythms (talk) 21:08, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I fail to see how "WV xx" and "MD xx" violate WP:USSH. I'm not seeing anything there that really discusses this issue. MDSHA frequently uses "MD xx" and WVDOH commonly uses "WV xx" or a variant ("West Virginia xx", "W. Va. xx") in its publications. Never "Route xx." Dropping the state name also brings in potential for confusion in a multi-state article like this. Brian Powell (talk) 00:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Minor followup - WP:USRD/STDS shows using the state abbreviation for linked text. It specifically gives "WV 10 ALT" as an example. Why be inconsistent? Use the state abbreviation (or whatever a state commonly uses, like SR for Ohio and Virginia) in the text. Brian Powell (talk) 00:30, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm fine with keeping the abbreviations as "WV xx" and "MD xx". Those seem to be the abbreviations most used by WVDOH and MDSHA, and though the page Rschen7754 cited says to use the format "West Virginia Route xx", it does seem to leave open the possibility of using "WV xx" as an abbreviation in the text. In addition, in the case of Maryland, the Maryland Roads Wikiproject editing guide specifically mentions using "MD nn" as an abbreviation. - Algorerhythms (talk) 13:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree completely. As I commented at WT:USRD, abbreviations should definitely be allowed if it serves as a abbreviation of the USSH common name. In this case, the common name is "West Virginia Route #", so "WV #" should be fine. Other states do this too: New York articles use "NY #" for "New York State Route #" and Vermont articles use "VT #" for "Vermont Route #", to list a couple of examples. This is clearly a case where USSH doesn't match the consensus-accepted de facto practice. – TMF 04:15, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Or rather, USSH doesn't address this consensus-accepted practice. – TMF 04:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Minor followup - WP:USRD/STDS shows using the state abbreviation for linked text. It specifically gives "WV 10 ALT" as an example. Why be inconsistent? Use the state abbreviation (or whatever a state commonly uses, like SR for Ohio and Virginia) in the text. Brian Powell (talk) 00:30, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Route xx. That being said, pay attention to WT:USRD just in case it changes in the next few days. --Rschen7754 (T C) 06:02, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "I-68 is also advertised to drivers on I-70 as an "alternate route to Ohio and points west" by the Maryland State Highway Administration." - cite?
- The citation I was previously using has started blocking external linking, so if I link to it, it shows up as a dead link in the link checker tool. I've been trying to find another reference for it, though.
- "Three miles (five kilometers) east of Grantsville, US 219 leaves the National Freeway to run northward towards Meyersdale, Pennsylvania, while I-68 continues eastward, crossing Savage Mountain before entering Allegany County.[2]" - you've got a sentence paragraph.
- Merged into the paragraph above it.
- MD xx - see above.
- Can you combine references 20, 21, 22?
- I've merged references 20 and 21, but 22 refers to a separate file, so it doesn't really make sense to merge it. - Algorerhythms (talk) 05:53, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Otherwise no problems, should be a support once changes made. --Rschen7754 (T C) 04:44, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Provisional support provided that the abbreviation issue is resolved in some fashion according to consensus. --Rschen7754 (T C) 05:00, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Issues resolved in previous FAC. Dough4872 (talk) 17:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support based on changes made since previous FAC. --Polaron | Talk 20:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - noted issues seem to have been resolved. Brian Powell (talk) 05:38, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - I made a couple of minor edits as I read through, but couldn't find anything serious - although as a Brit I had to grit my teeth at "Thruway" (: -I'm happy to support this Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.