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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was promoted by Ucucha 15:33, 8 September 2012 [1].
Inocybe saliceticola (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): J Milburn (talk) 13:01, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is a short article, but I think it includes everything it needs. I'm afraid I can't promise tales of poisoning or great economic importance, but I did manage to acquire a photograph of this obscure Nordic species, and I've included my own sketch of the spores. Thank you for your time! J Milburn (talk) 13:01, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments. Mostly minor nitpicks: Sasata (talk) 18:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks very much for your thoughts. J Milburn (talk) 21:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
lead: link habit- Done.
"and may includes" -> include- Done.
perhaps add a few words to describe what characters are typical of the section Marginatae (assuming it's more than just association with Salix)- You're right. I will look into this. J Milburn (talk) 21:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll make sure this is done at some point next week- I'm going to have to wait until next time I'm on campus. J Milburn (talk) 12:56, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll make sure this is done at some point next week- I'm going to have to wait until next time I'm on campus. J Milburn (talk) 12:56, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- You're right. I will look into this. J Milburn (talk) 21:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"The cap's colour varies from yellow-brown to pale brown, and is palest at the margins." add underlined (or similar)- Done.
"The slender stem measures from 0.7 to 6.2 centimetres (0.28 to 2.4 in) by 1.5 to 6.5 millimetres (0.059 to 0.26 in)." it's obvious, but perhaps add "long" and "thick" to these measurements. The value "0.28" should have one fewer sig fig to match the input- Done.
"It varies in colour" clarify "It" ( the stem, or the atypical specimen referred to in the previous sentence?)- Done.
- probably should tweak image placement so that the spore pic isn't pushing in the "Micro chars" subheading
- Short of a hack to move the mycomorphbox to the left (which I couldn't work out) this is about the best I can do. That ends up looking rather right-heavy. Do you prefer it? J Milburn (talk) 21:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I think all right-aligned images is a lesser evil than pushed in subheaders, but it's just my preference (and doesn't bother me that much anyway). Sasata (talk) 16:41, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Short of a hack to move the mycomorphbox to the left (which I couldn't work out) this is about the best I can do. That ends up looking rather right-heavy. Do you prefer it? J Milburn (talk) 21:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Four spores are borne on each basidia." basidium- Done.
"The cell wall can be as much as 4.5 μm thick." -> is up to- Done.
"strongly-protruding excrescences" no hyphen needed after "-ly" words- Done.
"In addition, they are found in vastly different habitats; I. mixtilis and" think a colon is better than a semi-colon here- Done.
"… has confirmed that it is I. obtusiuscula and I. saliceticola are separate species." extra words "it is" here?- Done.
"while the spore are larger." -> spores- Done.
for consistency, might want to use short form binomials for three Salix species in "Dist & hab"- Done.
am wondering if a range map might be a more useful image for "Dist and hab" rather than a single species of moss with which the fungus grows?- I will look into this. J Milburn (talk) 21:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Thanks very much for your comments. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I will look into this. J Milburn (talk) 21:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. I believe the article meets the FA criteria. Sasata (talk) 16:41, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Image review
- File:Sphagnum_squarrosum_091207.jpg: image description page says "My name (Bernd Haynold) must be clearly visible close to the picture" - would you read this as a request for caption attribution? Nikkimaria (talk) 21:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I think that's just a reminder that the picture is not just in the public domain. My usage is consistent with the licenses under which the image is released. J Milburn (talk) 12:56, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It has now been removed and been replaced with a map. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I think that's just a reminder that the picture is not just in the public domain. My usage is consistent with the licenses under which the image is released. J Milburn (talk) 12:56, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments: I'll mainly be looking at prose, punctuation, and manual of style here, since I don't know too much about the subject matter. It looks pretty well written, only a few small issues:
- I think that one weakness in the prose is the number of short sentences, particularly in "Microscopic characteristics", the end of the first paragraph of "Description", and the second paragraph of "Distribution and habitat".
- I've tried to improve the flow a little. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- "the mushrooms of I. hirculus have a much more fibrillose cap, that is, a cap with many more fibrils" Is there a more concise way to put this?
- I've cut out the defintion but added a link to Wiktionary. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- "with the original description describing it only as "fungoid"." Not a big deal, but this is the WP:PLUSING construction.
- Done.
- There are a few commas that I think could be removed: "particular species favoured by the fungus are unclear, and may include beech and alder taxa", " The longer caulocystidia (cystidia on the stem) measure up to 99 μm in length, and have a more variable shape." & "the abundant cauloparacystidia can have slightly thicker walls, and are often arranged in clusters".
- Done. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- "I. salicis is rare in Nordic countries, and is typically collected from dunes." I'm not sure we need the comma here, also, is it rare in Nordic countries because of the lack of dunes there? I feel similarly about "it grows on fine sand, and has not been recorded in Finland".
- I don't know- the point is that both are features which differentiate it clearly from I. saliceticola. I worry that removing the comma would imply that the two facts are more related than they are. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, that's it from me. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:38, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you, I really appreciate you taking the time to read the article. I've been away this weekend, and have found myself busy now- I will get to them. J Milburn (talk) 18:42, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Ok, I'm satisfied with the fixes and explanations, the article looks FA quality to me. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:48, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you! J Milburn (talk) 20:17, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support and comments Looks FA to me, just two quibbles Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:18, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for taking the time to read the article, I really appreciate it. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The duplicate detector found the following linked more than once in the body of the article (i.e. excluding infoboxes and the lead section): willow and Inocybe
- Done.
- conical or nearly so, but as the mushroom matures, the caps flatten into a more convex — surely flatter is less convex?
- No- "convex" is a specific shape which is flatter than a cone. Agaricus bisporus has a convex cap, but it is flatter than the conical cap of Hygrocybe conica. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The duplicate detector found the following linked more than once in the body of the article (i.e. excluding infoboxes and the lead section): willow and Inocybe
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ucucha (talk) 14:53, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.