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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 23:13, 17 October 2009 [1].
- Nominator(s): Dana boomer (talk) 18:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this article on the only breed of horse from Iceland for featured article because I have been working on it throughout this year and think that it is finally ready for FAC. This article has gone through peer reviews by multiple users, which I think have prepared it well. Special thanks go to Montanabw for her suggestions, copyediting and general help throughout the process. This is my first attempt at alt text for images, so please go easy on me there! Dana boomer (talk) 18:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Image review (Support on criterion 3)
- File:Tölt.jpg - Who is Arno Grimm and how does User:Regs have the ability to release something of his into the public domain. Please clarify.
- I'm not sure on this. What would you think of replacing the image with this?
- That would be fine, but its description needs to be cleaned up. NW (Talk) 02:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I've tweaked the description and switched out the photos, as well as changing the alt text. Dana boomer (talk) 13:12, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Does this make it allright to use the file? Dana boomer (talk) 20:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry about that; I forgot to comment here. Yes, it would be fine to use those images. NW (Talk) 16:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Cool! I've added the image back in. Dana boomer (talk) 18:30, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry about that; I forgot to comment here. Yes, it would be fine to use those images. NW (Talk) 16:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Does this make it allright to use the file? Dana boomer (talk) 20:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I've tweaked the description and switched out the photos, as well as changing the alt text. Dana boomer (talk) 13:12, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That would be fine, but its description needs to be cleaned up. NW (Talk) 02:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure on this. What would you think of replacing the image with this?
- File:Winterhaltung.jpg - I feel like this image is a low-resolution version of one of our or Commons' FPs. However, I could just be crazy. Does anyone else recognize it?
- I have been through most of the Commons' FPs while searching for equine pictures for the horse portal, and have not come across another version of this. However, if there is one out there, I would have no problem replacing it.
- Nah, I probably don't know what I'm talking about. The image is fine. NW (Talk) 02:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I have been through most of the Commons' FPs while searching for equine pictures for the horse portal, and have not come across another version of this. However, if there is one out there, I would have no problem replacing it.
- File:Tölt.jpg - Who is Arno Grimm and how does User:Regs have the ability to release something of his into the public domain. Please clarify.
- NW (Talk) 18:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Replies interspersed above. Dana boomer (talk) 19:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Alt text done; thanks.
Please add alt text to the lead image,by using the|image_alt=parameter I just added to Template:Infobox horse. The other images have alt text that looks good already. Thanks. Eubulides (talk) 20:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]- Done, and thanks! Dana boomer (talk) 20:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You're welcome, and thanks for the quick work; it looks good now. Eubulides (talk) 22:58, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, and thanks! Dana boomer (talk) 20:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Is there not a picture of the tolt or flying pace? Fainites barleyscribs 19:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- All of the images I have been able to find have problems that prevent them from being in an FA. Improper licensing, taken from too far away, too much stuff in the background, etc. The main problem with photos is that they don't really illustrate the movement well, as it is more a certain footfall pattern than anything else. Dana boomer (talk) 20:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- How very annoying! Fainites barleyscribs 20:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- This; The ancestors of the Icelandic horse were probably taken to Iceland by the Vikings between 860 and 935 AD. They were followed by immigrants from Norse colonies in Ireland, the Isle of Man and the Western Isles of Scotland sounds slightly odd. As if horses followed them.
- Fixed. Dana boomer (talk) 19:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there a reason why the main horse is called tan rather than by one of those special horsy colours in the alt text?Fainites barleyscribs 20:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Because we try to stay away from the "special horsy colors" in alt text because they don't really tell the visually-impaired reader anything. Words like "palomino", "chestnut", "bay", "roan" are going to be even more difficult for visually-impaired readers to understand than "light", "dark", etc. The horse in the main image isn't really either light or dark, so I went with "tan". If this assumption is incorrect, then I will have no problem changing the way that I have written the alt text. Dana boomer (talk) 20:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I was thinking of those visually impaired readers who used not to be. It could say "Light chestnut (tan colour)" for example.Fainites barleyscribs 20:27, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I've added in your suggested wording to the lead image. Dana boomer (talk) 20:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I was thinking of those visually impaired readers who used not to be. It could say "Light chestnut (tan colour)" for example.Fainites barleyscribs 20:27, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Because we try to stay away from the "special horsy colors" in alt text because they don't really tell the visually-impaired reader anything. Words like "palomino", "chestnut", "bay", "roan" are going to be even more difficult for visually-impaired readers to understand than "light", "dark", etc. The horse in the main image isn't really either light or dark, so I went with "tan". If this assumption is incorrect, then I will have no problem changing the way that I have written the alt text. Dana boomer (talk) 20:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- How about these - thetolt and the pace. Do these have copyright problems?Fainites barleyscribs 20:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC) Ah - I see the tolt one has already been bowled out above. It does say that Regs is the author though. Presumably Regs is Grims wiki name.Fainites barleyscribs 20:25, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- (ec)The first is the tolt image that we originally had as the lead image in the article - it has copyright problems and we had to replace it. The second, although it is a pace, is not an Icelandic horse performing a pace (it's probably a Standardbred although I can't say this for sure) and the pace the the Icelandic performs is slightly different from a Standardbred pace, although it's the same basic footfall. Dana boomer (talk) 20:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- OK. Does this help?Fainites barleyscribs 20:34, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I saw that, but I'm not sure if it completely resolves the issue. I've asked NuclearWarfare above if the deletion discussion changes things. Dana boomer (talk) 20:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Per the note from NuclearWarfare above, I've re-added the tolt image as the lead image, where it was before. Dana boomer (talk) 18:30, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I saw that, but I'm not sure if it completely resolves the issue. I've asked NuclearWarfare above if the deletion discussion changes things. Dana boomer (talk) 20:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- OK. Does this help?Fainites barleyscribs 20:34, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- (ec)The first is the tolt image that we originally had as the lead image in the article - it has copyright problems and we had to replace it. The second, although it is a pace, is not an Icelandic horse performing a pace (it's probably a Standardbred although I can't say this for sure) and the pace the the Icelandic performs is slightly different from a Standardbred pace, although it's the same basic footfall. Dana boomer (talk) 20:29, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I read this at peer review. I think it is buffed up to the point there are no deal-breakers for mine left. Yes, it'd be nice to get a gif of the gait but ou can only do what you can do, short of travelling to iceland with a videocamera. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:00, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. (Note that although I'm a member of Wikiproject Equine, I've had very little to do with this article ... I corrected some ndashes on it once.) Ealdgyth - Talk 14:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support even though I did massive work on an earlier version of this article and thus am technically COI-ed out. I nonetheless wholeheartedly support Dana's work and improvements to the article. Montanabw(talk) 23:22, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support having now had the time to read this thoroughly. A very readable article.Fainites barleyscribs 21:53, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There's a link that went dead just today. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Gah, I hate link rot. I removed the link, as the information is covered by the next reference and not that controversial anyways. Dana boomer (talk) 11:51, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.