Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Deportation of the Crimean Tatars/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was archived by Sarastro1 via FACBot (talk) 23:13, 9 August 2017 [1].
- Nominator(s): Seiya (talk) 13:21, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
This article is about an important event in history. I hope I have done enough work (references, style, prose, data...) to justify its nominations. It is written in neutral, objective, professional manner, so hopefully you will consider the article and address any eventual problems so that they can be corrected and improved. Seiya (talk) 13:21, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Oppose, suggest withdrawal, copyedit and peer review -- recusing from coord duties, thank you for bringing this to FAC; I can see a lot of work has gone into it but my initial reading indicates that the nom may be premature. In the lead alone:
- The first sentence is over 700 characters long; "the 18 May 1944" is ungrammatical; long dashes shouldn't be surrounded by spaces.
- "The deportation disproportionately encompassed every person of Crimean Tatar descent" -- I don't really understand the use of "disproportionately" here.
- "arrived to their destination" -- I would expect "at their destination"; "During the time of this long transit" -- "the time of" is redundant.
Scanning the body of the article, several paragraphs do not end with citations, e.g. the last in the Background section, the fourth in Rehabilitation section, the fourth in Modern views and legacy, and the second in In popular culture. There are also several typos (e.g. "culturul", missing full stops, spaces before citations) and clumsy expressions (e.g. "a big publicity was given to him") that even a light copyedit would pick up. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:46, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
- All the brought up points have been corrected. As for the word "disproportionately" - it refers to the excessive, undue nature of the deportation that did not just target those men suspected of collaboration, but also children, women, the elderly, and even Red army soldiers - basically everyone who was part of this nation, without exception. It is like the phrase heard on the news ("disproportionate attack", "disproportionate focus on something"). I hope this helped to clarify. --Seiya (talk) 19:35, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you but the above comments are based on a very quick scan of the article, and therefore only indicative of prose and comprehension issues -- I think a full copyedit is still required, one that may well bring up questions relating to referencing as well as expression, and which should be carried out away from the pressures of the FAC process. Once that's done I think PR would be helpful before returning here, or as a first-time nominator you'd be eligible to participate in the FAC mentoring scheme, if that appeals. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:06, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for your observations. All of these were corrected and other users also edited the article in the meantime. Therefore, I would like to give room to hear opinions from others, as well.--Seiya (talk) 10:01, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you but the above comments are based on a very quick scan of the article, and therefore only indicative of prose and comprehension issues -- I think a full copyedit is still required, one that may well bring up questions relating to referencing as well as expression, and which should be carried out away from the pressures of the FAC process. Once that's done I think PR would be helpful before returning here, or as a first-time nominator you'd be eligible to participate in the FAC mentoring scheme, if that appeals. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:06, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Oppose. Agreed with Ian ... it's not close enough yet. Misspellings, odd punctuation, odd wording, etc. Ask for help at WP:GOCE, and run it through peer review. I'll be happy to take another look at it after that. - Dank (push to talk) 15:15, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
- The article has been submitted to both, a copyedit and peer review is pending.--Seiya (talk) 18:09, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Sarastro1 (talk) 23:13, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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