Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/December 2017 North American winter storm/archive1

December 2017 North American winter storm

Featured article candidates/December 2017 North American winter storm/archive1

Nominator(s): ~ Tails Wx 15:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya! This article regards a historic winter storm across the Southern United States in December 2017, which produced unusual amounts of snowfall across multiple states across the region. Developing from a cooled atmosphere and the resulting effects from cold temperatures and a cold front over Texas on December 5–7, the low-pressure area associated with the winter storm also caused heavy snowfall across the Mid-Atlantic and Northeastern regions of the United States, before moving offshore into The Maritimes and eventually over the Atlantic Ocean as a low-pressure system. After traversing the open waters, the low-pressure system also caused high wind gusts and severe weather across Germany and Switzerland. Overall, this winter storm caused eight fatalities, 45 injuries, and $1.06 million in damage. This article is currently a GA and has passed a GAN on March 31 this year. This is also my first FAC nomination, and am looking forward to any comments or suggestions regarding this article! ~ Tails Wx 15:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TechnoSquirrel69

Drive-by comment: can we do no better for a map than File:Vapor imagery December winter storm 2017.png? It is rather low-quality and has a misleading GIF icon in the corner. Given that the data is in the public domain, I'm sure it's possible to find or even create a better visualization. Good luck on your first FAC! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, got that image switched out and replaced with File:December 2017 winter storm snowfall map SE US.jpg. Thanks, TechnoSquirrel69! ~ Tails Wx 03:05, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

Suggest scaling up the map

Some images are missing alt text

File:Picture_of_snow-covered_Jackson,_Mississippi_from_above_December_2017.jpg is tagged as being under licensing review. Ditto File:Pilot_Mountain,_North_Carolina_December_2017_North_American_winter_storm.jpg. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikkimaria: I did scale up the map a bit; let me know if any further changes are needed for that image in terms of resizing or scaling (courtesy link to that respective section: #Meteorological synopsis). I did add alt text to the remaining images that didn't have them, and for now, I hid the two images and don't plan on changing that until either the licensing review is done or the files are deleted for whatever reason. Thanks! ~ Tails Wx 04:46, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, scaling should be done using |upright= in order to respect user preferences - see MOS:IMGSIZE. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done here - I did set it to 1.6, as a side note. ~ Tails Wx 04:50, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator note

This has been open for more than three weeks and has yet to pick up a support. Unless it attracts considerable movement towards a consensus to promote over the next three or four days I am afraid that it is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:30, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: Any chance this could be added to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/FAC urgents? ~ Tails Wx 21:00, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:34, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Gerda

Going to look although I know nothing about weather. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure that the lead image suits well because I can't see the falling snow, only read about it.
The damage seems a bit too detailed for an overview in the lead, for my taste.
In the sections following, it can probably not be helped that wording is repetitive.
I was prepared by the lead to read details about Sweden and Finland, but instead find Germany. I'm not sure that any European information belongs in an article about an American storm.
But if we have it, Germany: After Munich was mentioned, better let Starnberg etc follow which is close-by, and then the Black Forest, in a different state.
Still there: I'm not sure that one cancelled flight is relevant ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Generally: I am rather sure that countries such as Sweden don't need a link, per WP:OVERLINK, and feel the same for states such as Alabama. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I think I've resolved most of those comments, Gerda Arendt, here and here; I'm confused on where the wording is repetitive, though. If I may ask, where is the repetitive wording? Is it "snowfall", "snow", the state names, or...? ~ Tails Wx 01:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Thank you for the fixes, I'll check later. About the repetition: I said it can probably not be helped. We are supposed to write engaging prose but - due to the report of many details of the same kind - the mostly repeated word is "was/were". Perhaps you and others who know English better know alternatives. Or not, no problem. Perhaps check for snowfalls/accidents in a row, the possibility of combination. I confess - also due to the hour of review because I didn't want to procrastinate for another day - I had trouble keeping my eyes open ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  
  I am happy with the new lead image and your fixes. Another repeated phrase you want to check is "There were", - instead of "There were nearly 1,600 flights cancelled" you might write "Nearly 1,600 flights were cancelled", for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]