Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Battle of Dyrrhachium (1081)

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The article was promoted 00:55, 23 December 2007.

Battle of Dyrrhachium (1081)

I have been working on this article for around two months and think that it is of FA level. The article has also passed a WikiProject:Military history A-class rview and it has received a WikiProject:Military history peer review. All comments are appreciated. Kyriakos 20:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Restart, old nom. This has been stalled for six weeks, and on hold for four. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: too short information. --Brískelly^{[citazione necessaria]} 18:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply. Feature articles should be judged by quality not quantity and while I acknoledge that this article is fairly short, articles of small length have passed FAC for example, Battle of the Gebora. Kyriakos (talk) 20:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support with a few issues. The article appears comprehensive, well referenced, well illustrated and neutrally written.
- There is overlinking of dates. eg: while 18 October in the lead makes sense, February 1082 does not and there are other surplus links.
- The Bohemond advanced with his army - "The" is misplaced
- The lead does not seem to adequately summarise the "Aftermath" section
- command of the fleet and sailed at once, does not seem to specify which fleet the Doge took, was it his fleet or the Venetian one?
- ordered to march a bit in front of the main line - perhaps "just in front" would describe this better
- Varangians fled in the church - perhaps "fled into the church"

- Peripitus (Talk) 04:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support ~~oppose~~ I would really like to support this article, but think it inadequately sourced still: Almost all of the narrative depends on Anna Comnena, who is notoriously biased, and Lord Norwich, who is a popular historian with a tendency to repeat his Byzantine source. The account of the betrayal of Dyrrhachium depends on Anna alone. Please consult some modern, scholarly, secondary source. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 06:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm in the city atm and I am going to the state library in the next few hours. So I should be able to find a few new secondary sources. Kyriakos (talk) 22:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I have gone to the State Library and found another source and have used it to back up most of the cits containing Anna and Lord Norwich. Kyriakos (talk) 00:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thank you; I will support as soon as the names are regularized. It is pointlessly confusing to speak of Anna Comnena and the Komnenian restoration in the same article. I realize that this will take time, and will be willing to polish it off myself. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - I think I have finally managed to root all the others and regularise the names. Kyriakos (talk) 23:54, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      - Have you pinged Pmanderson and Karanacs? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:09, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        Appears to be done. Will try to dopyedit over the holidays. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 01:40, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support per previous nomination's comments of mine.--Yannismarou (talk) 13:38, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- last sentence of lead needs some work; "However, he was defeated by Alexius outside Larissa and was forced to retreat to Italy losing all Norman the Norman conquests."
- is "Alexios" meant to be "Alexius"?
- There is pronoun confusion in this sentence: "Robert had no intentions for peace; he sent his son Bohemond with an advance force towards Greece and he landed at Aulon, with Robert following shortly after"
- Need to use non-breaking spaces between numbers and units. For example, use & nbsp; or {{Nowrap}},
- Be consistent between use of Robert and use of Guiscard to refer to him

Karanacs (talk) 16:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.