Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Atlantic City – Brigantine Connector/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 06:57, 6 July 2009 [1].

Atlantic City – Brigantine Connector

Nominator(s): Dough4872 (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Featured article candidates/Atlantic City – Brigantine Connector/archive1

I am nominating this for featured article because I have put in a lot of work into improving this article. I first brought it to Good Article status and then took it through an A-class review in which many major issues were resolved. The article is well-sourced and covers the aspects of the road broadly. If this passes, it will be the second FA for WP:NJSCR. Dough4872 (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm surprised this wasn't raised at the GA/A-class reviews, but I am really uncomfortable with using a set of Google Maps directions as a reliable source, especially on multiple occasions as done in this article. While it may well be accurate, there's no way of knowing that the route as suggested by Gmaps is the route, the whole route and nothing but the route; that the measurements are accurate and not rounded up/down; and, most significantly, that the route as suggested by Gmaps won't be subject to change whenever there are construction works in the area. Surely there must be reliable sources – the contract for the road's construction, for example, or the Department of Transportation's own publicity – that specify the length and places served? – iride scent 18:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are other sources out there, such as the New Jersey Department of Transportation's straight-line diagrams (SLD) and a map of the connector by the South Jersey Transportation Authority (SJTA, which owns the road), which are also used in the route description. However, Google Maps was the best source I could find for which the mileage of the "whole" connector can be determined, as the SLD has the road going off at one of the exit ramps (This issue came up in the A-Class review). I believe that Yahoo Maps has mileage to the nearest hundreth, but to find the exact mileage would requiring using a GIS program, which I do not have the capability of using. Otherwise, I mainly used Google Maps as a reference to show the physical surroundings around the route that cannot be seen in the SLD or the map by the SJTA. Dough4872 (talk) 18:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – I have put a lot of work into the article as well and helped get it to GA-status, but I do not think it is ready for FA-status. There are some errors in the article that need to be fixed (which I updated and were then reverted) and some more information about the construction and its controversies can be included. –Dream out loud (talk) 01:34, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you know of this information, and it can be accurately be desicribed with reliable sources (Alps' Roads is not a reliable source), then you may add it in. (In addition, if you truly feel your version of the exit list is the most accuarate in describing the route, you may undo my revert). In my reckoning of the exit list, I tried to describe it from south to north progression following the lettered exits (which goes against the SLD). Dough4872 (talk) 19:18, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have already added the changes, we can stay with your version for now. Dough4872 (talk) 20:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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