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Anna Nicole Smith

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I nominate this article for FA, because I really do think the article meets with all the criteria, and has a lot of good references. Thanks.

Ineversigninsodonotmessageme (talk) 00:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC)Ineversigninsodonotmessageme[reply]

Oppose per FAC 1e. Article has been semi-protected since October due to vandalism & libel concerns. Caknuck (talk) 01:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not concerned about 1e, which I think is really meant to be about edit warring between contributors, rather than vandalism from anons. Some high-visibility pop-culture topics, like this one, are going to be highly-appealing targets for vandals, but that shouldn't disqualify them from FA status, at least in my opinion. (As testament to its stability, the article has barely changed since November) I believe the article is actually pretty comprehensive too, but I don't think this one is quite there yet. The prose needs lots of work, particularly for flow. It's very choppy, by which I mean there are very few transitions from one thought to the next. I think it would take some time for even a good copy editor to iron out the kinks. (This is common when an article has been worked over by dozens of contributors, and never really copy edited). Since there's an entire article on Dannielynn Birkhead paternity case we can probably reduce the amount of blow-by-blow coverage here. In general, it might be good to think about ways to reduce the focus on legal back-and-forth. The references need a lot of clean-up. They should be in a standard style with publisher information, publication dates, and accessdates. Might want to check if the sources are reliable. (about.com?) The YouTube tribute videos aren't really appropriate. I think it probably needs more work than will be easy to accomplish in a week. --JayHenry (talk) 06:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The prose needs quite a bit of work. I've left some examples below, but this is not comprehensive; the article needs a thorough copyedit. There are also issues of missing citations, and some of the citations cited are not reliable sources. Karanacs (talk) 16:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Every sentence in the first paragraph of the lead begins with "She" (or "Vickie Lynn Marshall"). Can this be varied
- Early life section issues:
  - Why is she referred to as "Anna Nicole" throughout this section? Per WP:MOSBIO, after the first reference, the subject should be referred to be her surname. In this case, that would be "Smith"
  - "Her father then left the family". This makes it sound as if her father left as soon as they got married, which is not true
  - I would move the sentence about her older brother to the end of the first paragraph, and I would reword it to something along the lines of "Smith has an older half-brother, David Luther Tacker, Jr., born to her mother in 1966."
  - Need a citation for Virgie's later marriages and divorces
  - Prose does not flow in this section at all, not from sentence to sentence and not from paragraph to paragraph.
- There should not be 2 infoboxes in this article. Please pick one and remove the other.
- "Smith's career took off" -> too colloquial
- "Becoming one of Playboy's most popular models, Smith was heavier and larger than the typical Playboy model" -> These two clauses appear to have nothing to do with each other
- Need a citation for when she decided to be "Anna Nicole Smith"
- Need a citation for fact that her Guess photos were inspired by Jayne Maynsfield
- Need a citation for "maintained that she loved her husband, and age did not matter to her"
- Further information tags go at the top of a section, not in the middle/at the end
- Need a citation for fact that E Pierce MArshall died from an aggressive infection, since that is a quote.
- E. Pierce Marshall does not need to be wikilinked twice in one section.
- There is an overlinking of some common words - will, heirs, film, produced
- Need citations for fact that film appearances were highly publicized in 1994 and that little was done to further her acting career
- Need citation for fact that Smith's performances were panned, that her career stalled during her litigation, and that she was fodder for late night tv
- Need citation for fact that The Anna Nicole Show was cancelled for "creative differences"
- Need a citation for "fried chicken" Even if it is covered by the next citation, it should be immediately after a quotation.
- Need citation for fact that " Tabloids speculated that Smith was under the influence of pills or some other controlled substance. Her representatives explained that she was in pain due to a series of grueling workouts"
- There are a lot of very short paragraphs. This can lead to the text seeming choppy
- Need a citation for "Mark Hatten aka Mark "Hollywood" Hatten also came forward to claim that he was the father of Anna Nicole Smith's little girl, Dannielynn."
- Need citations on Daniels's cause of death
- Per WP:MOSQUOTE, quotations should not be offset if they are under 4 lines
- Need citation for: "Smith was finally buried March 2, 2007 at Nassau's Lakeview Memorial Gardens and Mausoleum in a plot adjacent to her son, Daniel."
- Need citation for "Daniel's father reportedly wants his son exhumed and reburied in his home state of Texas."
- I think you should exclude the following information from Appearances list, as it is pretty much trivia. If any of it is that important, it should be incorporated into the article.
  - Comedy Central Roast of Pamela Anderson (2005) - Herself (in audience)
  - On the NBC soap opera Passions, a character based on Smith by the name Hanna Nicola Smythe made an appearance.[90]
  - An animated version of Smith appears as a playable character in the video game version of Celebrity Deathmatch.
  - In 1993, Smith appeared in the music video for Bryan Ferry's single "Will You Love Me Tomorrow".[89]
  - In 1997, Smith did a remake and music video of the Marilyn Monroe song "My Heart Belongs To Daddy", the video made by Nicolaï Lo Russo in France.
  - In 1997, Smith appeared in the music video for Supertramp's single "You Win, I Lose".
  - In 2004, Smith appeared in the music video for Kanye West's single "The New Workout Plan".
- Is it original research to use Ancestry.com to find birth/marriage/divorce dates?
- Please use named refs, so that the same reference does not appear multiple times (for example, "high school remembers Anna Nicole - barely"
- Some references are not formatted properly - no publisher, no date, no author, no retrieval date
- About.com is not a reliable source
- I don't think iamscruelty.com or furisdead.com are considered reliable sources
- There is a misformatted reference (currently ref 58 - Court Disses Virgie; Larry and Baby to Leave Bahamas"
- Soapcentral.com is probably not a reliable source either
- There are too many external links. I would definitely remove the 3 Youtube links
- I don't know that gawker.com is considered a reliable source

Karanacs (talk) 16:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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