Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Adrian Cole (RAAF officer)/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Karanacs 21:48, 28 July 2009 [1].

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Adrian Cole (RAAF officer)

Nominator(s): Ian Rose (talk) 04:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• Featured article candidates/Adrian Cole (RAAF officer)/archive1

Nominating this article on another Australian Flying Corps veteran and senior officer in the RAAF - in the mold of Richard Williams, Henry Cobby, Frank McNamara, and so on. Currently GA-Class, as well as A-Class on the Military History, Aviation, and Australia wikiprojects. Since passing those milestones, have added some further detail here and there and sorted out a niggling question on his victory claims in World War I (even added alt text to the pictures after finding out about that requirement!) so believe ready for FA-Class... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 04:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments This is in good shape and certainly very close to FA quality.

• He seems to have transferred to the RAAF and then become one of its original officers when it was formed. How did he transfer to it if it didn't yet exist?
• "Though he later recorded that it involved "twenty months' hard work, without pay ... with loads of scurrilous and other criticism", provision of the RAAF's radio facilities and technicians was considered a boon for contestants." I can't quite figure out what this sentence is trying to say.

• Reworded these two. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• "In the event, he had to make do..." This reads as quite colloquial to me, but I wouldn't mind hearing other opinions.

• For me it does the job, but more than happy to listen to suggestions. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• Are we sure that Who's Who in Australia is a RS? Most Who's Whos are considered not to be, I believe.

• First I've heard of Who's Who being a questionable source, and I've used it in most of my recent A/FA-Class noms. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• Well, Ealdgyth seems to think it's okay, so I'll trust her judgment. Steve Smith (talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 14:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

• References look okay otherwise.
• Images not reviewed. Steve Smith (talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 05:16, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for your review, Steve, and the copyedits - while I tweaked a couple, I think they've certainly improved the prose. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

• Support - My concerns have been addressed. Steve Smith (talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 14:35, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
• Support: I believe that this article meets the criteria of a Featured Article. I have the following comments:
  • there are no disambig links and no reference errors using the tools (good work)
  • there is some overlink (e.g. World War I) that possibly needs to be fixed
  • dashes seem consistent with WP:DASH - I fixed any hyphens I could find that needed to be endashes;
  • there is possibly an issue in relation to Wikipedia:MOSNUM#Numbers_as_figures_or_words as some numbers greater than 10 are spelt when maybe they should use numbers instead.

Anyway, hope this helps. — AustralianRupert (talk) 02:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

• Tks for that mate. I do generally re-link items that are in the intro the first time they recur in the main body, as well as in the infobox, but hopefully nothing's linked more often than that (if so, let me know or feel free to de-link). Also re. numbers, I tend to consistently go with the MOS clause "may be rendered in words if they are expressed in one or two words (16 or sixteen, 84 or eighty-four, 200 or two hundred"; in military articles there are so many unit numbers on top of the date figures that I prefer words where strictly within MOS guidelines. Again, if I haven't applied that consistently then feel free to rub my nose in it...! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

• Comments - sources look okay, links not checked with the link checker tool, as it was misbehaving. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:22, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
• Support Excellent article which meets the FA criteria Nick-D (talk) 03:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

• Support - a well written, well presented and comprehensive article. My only niggle is that there is inconsistency in the succession boxes, with one containing ranks and the other not. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 07:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

• Tks guys - yeah Bryce, another succession box aficionado added that one without including the ranks of these guys that I'd never heard of - occurred to me I might just know where to find the missing info and so it's proved - both temporary AVMs... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

• Figured that was the case. Thanks, Ian. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 14:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

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