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Hundred Years' War (1345–1347)

The Hundred Years' War broke out in 1337. There was a lull after the Truce of Espléchin was signed in 1340. The English determined early in 1345 to renew the war and full-scale fighting broke out in south-west and northern France. The French were repeatedly defeated, with the loss or devastation of much territory and the capture by the English of the port of Calais. Part of this period was so militarily successful for the English king that it was known as his annus mirabilis or year of marvels. Most fighting ceased in September 1347 when the Truce of Calais was signed.

Contributor(s): Gog the Mild

This covers all of the major campaigns, battles and sieges of the Hundred Years' War in the period 1345–1347. During the Edwardian phase of the war there would be periods of "hot" war, separated by periods when formal truces were in place and conflict was largely restricted to raiding and small-scale activities. Eg see the campaignbox. This topic covers all of the listed articles in the section "1345–1347". While the Battle of Neville's Cross is strictly a part of the Second War of Scottish Independence it is usually also considered to be a part of the Hundred Years' War - see the article text for details - and so I have included it. Note that this proposed topic includes two existing Featured Topics. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:35, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support the topic as a whole, but I have reservations about the lead article's title—the year range looks like a disambiguator at first glance (as though this is the Hundred Years War that took place from 1345–1347). Has there been any thought to re titling it? The lead sentence of the article already has to parse the context as "English offensives in 1345–1347, during the Hundred Years' War", for example. Just a query really, as the topic seems complete given the scope and is almost entirely at Featured status. 𝄠ʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 16:50, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I have responded on the article's talk page. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:05, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per Grapple X. I've linked the two campaign subtopics; I'm not sure the battles in those subtopics need to be in this nomination, since they're covered by the campaign articles? -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 17:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was following the examples of existing FTs, such as Wikipedia:Featured topics/Battleships of Japan and Wikipedia:Featured topics/God of War franchise. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:31, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article in the subtopic don't need to be included so long as the subtopic is linked like it is currently. 𝄠ʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 17:35, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What is the story of the Hundred Years' War (1345–1347) article? I'm surprised to see it was just created two days ago, without an evident move from draft or userspace and then rated GA within 40 hours. While you're obviously an expert in this area and it looks good, it seems like there should be more time and eyes on it before promoting.
- A few minor things that I caught:
- The MOS:BOLDLEAD is awkward, and Hundred Years' War is not linked in the text, nor is Hundred Years' War (1337–1360) (which doesn't use bold)
- "king of England, Edward III" need a comma afterward
- "In 1360 the Edwardian phase of the war ended when with the Treaty of Brétigny."
Hundred_Years'_War_(1337–1360)#English_victories_(1345–1351) seems to be the only link here; there should be one at Hundred_Years'_War#Battle_of_Crécy_and_the_taking_of_Calais too at least.
Battle of Blanchetaque is not even mentioned in the main article.
Shouldn't Truce of Calais be included in the topic? Reywas92^Talk 21:15, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not wholly convinced that Truce of Calais is necessary, but I can see how it could be argued that it is, and it sits there well enough, and so added. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:46, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reywas92, what are your thoughts on this nomination?—do you feel ready to support? Aza24 (talk) 22:14, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, very nice work! Support Reywas92^Talk 00:48, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support Hog Farm _Talk 15:50, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural note. Per GrappleX's comment above and after talk page consultation / Gog's approval, I recently moved the overview article to Hundred Years' War, 1345–1347. SnowFire (talk) 20:50, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you! Aza24 (talk) 22:14, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support heartily. Well deserved. –♠Vami _IV†♠ 23:09, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, while I'm here. Looks good to me, nice work. Only two thoughts, one of which is basically out of scope and the other is optional. I'd argue that small subtopics should be forcibly merged into larger FT/GT topics, so no need for the subtopics on Gascon / Crecy campaigns anymore barring the unlikely scenario of this main topic losing its FT status. That said, this is a larger issue than just this one topic, so no need to change anything right now of course, just a "for the record" note. Secondly, it's just a section in an article on the broader topic of the Hundred Years War overall so no need to include it as part of this nomination, but it looks like Timeline of the Hundred Years' War#1337–1360 could probably be expanded. Currently it shows a mere two events from this period. I'm of the opinion that timeline articles should be fairly detailed, at least, and the 1345-47 part should be in good shape and maybe even linked to from the overview article. But like I said, optional, and not something to add to the nomination even if done. SnowFire (talk) 04:59, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Closed with a consensus to promote to Featured Topic - GamerPro64 04:49, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]