Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Georgia Institute of Technology/archive1
Georgia Institute of Technology
[edit]WikiProject Georgia Tech has been fairly successful so far, and thus I bring you the list of articles that we've improved to FA, A, and GA class in the hopes that it'll make an acceptable Featured Topic. We could also add Calvin Johnson (American football) and Reggie Ball to the list (A and GA class), but they are somewhat tangentially related. At the moment, the alumni list is a featured list, Tech Tower is a featured article, and Ramblin' Wreck is at FAC. History of Georgia Tech has had a previous FAC, and will (as soon as I get some time to address concerns from the last one) have another. While it won't affect this as much, note that I plan on splitting a section of the alumni list (#Athletics) into its own list, and will nominate that at FLC. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 02:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- According to the newly spelled out criteria, you need two more featured articles from the Good articles you have, and also, are you sure that these are all the articles that could be put under this heading? Judgesurreal777 18:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- I derived this list from the quality rankings of articles from WikiProject Georgia Tech. Go to WP:TECH/AS for the chart and list of nominations/etc. So, you're saying that there are too many GAs per FA? Somehow, that doesn't seem very fair... well, we'll know whether or not Ramblin' Wreck is FA within a week or so. While we don't have any other articles at FAC, many could be nominated in their present state, such as Georgia Institute of Technology, Georgia Tech traditions, and Calvin Johnson (American football). So, it's borderline. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- What i mean is that you have nominated 12 articles, so 1/3 of them should be featured, so 4 featured articles. You have 2, so you need to upgrade two of your GA's. But an equally big issue is comprehensiveness. This university is a big topic, and many more articles could be included in it, so the 12 you chose may not fully cover the topic of this college. Judgesurreal777 20:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, okay. Well, I guess I need to withdraw this nomination until I've got 1/3 Featured Articles/Lists. I'm fairly certain that those 12 articles represent the college rather well. Not that there aren't articles on other topics, but I think we've done a fairly good job of focusing on the school's more important articles. It's just that we haven't pushed many of those articles the "last step" into FA-land. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 06:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't mean to be a pain by pointing all of this out, but I really do want to help :) I STRONGLY suggest that you find a way to rein in the size of the topic; the whole university could mean 100+ articles to be considered comprehensive. Could you do "Athletics of.." or "alumni of..." and then list notable alumni? See if something like that is possible so comprehensiveness is achievable. Judgesurreal777 07:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- So you're saying, create a new Featured Topic Candidate around the alumni list, and add FA/GA alumni to it. I'm not sure there are many; let's see... we have List of Georgia Institute of Technology alumni, I just created List of Georgia Institute of Technology athletes and nominated it at FLC, and as for specific alumni we have Calvin Johnson (American football), Reggie Ball, and George P. Burdell... and that's it. Even Jimmy Carter's article is only B-class. I suppose that fits the 1/3 ratio rule, but it's hardly representative of the school's alumni. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 20:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- I offer that as an example, you would know better than I if that list would be comprehensive. This is a really tough topic to try to feature, but make it very specific... "Faculty of..." with a lead article as the list of faculty and then any notable faculty. Something like that. Judgesurreal777 23:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- So you're saying, create a new Featured Topic Candidate around the alumni list, and add FA/GA alumni to it. I'm not sure there are many; let's see... we have List of Georgia Institute of Technology alumni, I just created List of Georgia Institute of Technology athletes and nominated it at FLC, and as for specific alumni we have Calvin Johnson (American football), Reggie Ball, and George P. Burdell... and that's it. Even Jimmy Carter's article is only B-class. I suppose that fits the 1/3 ratio rule, but it's hardly representative of the school's alumni. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 20:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't mean to be a pain by pointing all of this out, but I really do want to help :) I STRONGLY suggest that you find a way to rein in the size of the topic; the whole university could mean 100+ articles to be considered comprehensive. Could you do "Athletics of.." or "alumni of..." and then list notable alumni? See if something like that is possible so comprehensiveness is achievable. Judgesurreal777 07:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, okay. Well, I guess I need to withdraw this nomination until I've got 1/3 Featured Articles/Lists. I'm fairly certain that those 12 articles represent the college rather well. Not that there aren't articles on other topics, but I think we've done a fairly good job of focusing on the school's more important articles. It's just that we haven't pushed many of those articles the "last step" into FA-land. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 06:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- What i mean is that you have nominated 12 articles, so 1/3 of them should be featured, so 4 featured articles. You have 2, so you need to upgrade two of your GA's. But an equally big issue is comprehensiveness. This university is a big topic, and many more articles could be included in it, so the 12 you chose may not fully cover the topic of this college. Judgesurreal777 20:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- I derived this list from the quality rankings of articles from WikiProject Georgia Tech. Go to WP:TECH/AS for the chart and list of nominations/etc. So, you're saying that there are too many GAs per FA? Somehow, that doesn't seem very fair... well, we'll know whether or not Ramblin' Wreck is FA within a week or so. While we don't have any other articles at FAC, many could be nominated in their present state, such as Georgia Institute of Technology, Georgia Tech traditions, and Calvin Johnson (American football). So, it's borderline. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
- Strong oppose Obvious cherry picking. The only article covering the campus and college divisions is Tech Tower, hardly a major subtopic. The FT proposal is also heavily biased toward student live, and practically ignore academic stuff, which is preposterous given this is, y'now, an academic institution. Circeus 01:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- The only articles that focus heavily on "academic stuff" are the school's article and the individual college articles, the latter of which aren't comprehensive enough for GA or FA status/nomination at this point. I suppose the problem is that I don't quite understand what constitutes a "featured topic." My reading of the criteria led me to believe that it is merely a collection of related, high-quality articles, but upon closer reading of the criteria, I agree that this isn't ready for a featured topic. I have some ideas for more specific subjects, though. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- Fail --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 20:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)