Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/2003–04 Arsenal F.C. season/archive1
2003–04 Arsenal F.C. season
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I'm nominating this list for good topic status as it meets the criteria and is a complete account of Arsenal's 2003–04 season. Credit to Lemonade51 who did the hard work on getting the articles promoted. I'm ensuring they're recognised as a complete topic. NapHit (talk) 12:12, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Comments: The quality is there, but I have some comments. There's no category or navbox linking the articles, as recommended by GT criterion 1c; this isn't a bar to nomination, but it suggests that the scope isn't well-defined enough for anyone to have thought it merited a category. I guess the scope is currently "season and any matches notable enough to have their own articles"? Why aren't other matches that they played notable? The "Battle of Old Trafford" isn't treated as a particularly important or notable event in the season article (even the catchy name is piped away). It vaguely strikes me that The Invincibles (English football) might ought to be here, too? I can't tell what the scope is and why it was set there; no offense to the excellent articles! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I'd say the scope is the season article and then notable matches during that season. There's precedent for this, as previous season topics are good topics. WP:FOOTY only creates articles for matches which have long-lasting significance. Such as the Battle of Old Trafford, which has been talked about for years afterwards. This goes along with the finals of cup competitions. Hence, why we don't include other matches played during the season. It was a notable match and gets more coverage than most of the other in the season article. Have to remember it's a season overview, so undue weight can't be given to one match. The Invincibles point is a good one. I can see an argument for and against including it. We probably need more comments on that to decide whether it should be included. NapHit (talk) 13:22, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Bryanrutherford0, do you have any further comments on this? NapHit (talk) 18:28, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'd feel more comfortable supporting if "The Invincibles" were part of the nomination, since this topic is half of that article. Without that, I'm still neutral. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 21:01, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Bryanrutherford0, do you have any further comments on this? NapHit (talk) 18:28, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I'd say the scope is the season article and then notable matches during that season. There's precedent for this, as previous season topics are good topics. WP:FOOTY only creates articles for matches which have long-lasting significance. Such as the Battle of Old Trafford, which has been talked about for years afterwards. This goes along with the finals of cup competitions. Hence, why we don't include other matches played during the season. It was a notable match and gets more coverage than most of the other in the season article. Have to remember it's a season overview, so undue weight can't be given to one match. The Invincibles point is a good one. I can see an argument for and against including it. We probably need more comments on that to decide whether it should be included. NapHit (talk) 13:22, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Amazing topic. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 21:01, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Support
CommentsI definitely object to the usage of refs in the lead for the Battle of Old Trafford since they should only be in the body unless it's for stuff like quotes and I have my doubts about the weather service Weather Underground being used as a source in both of the GAs here but mostly,these articles are well-written and thorough in their coverage. --K. Peake 14:13, 11 May 2021 (UTC)- Thanks for comments, @Kyle Peake:, I've addressed them all. NapHit (talk) 19:44, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- NapHit I had not looked at Weather Underground's usage for 2003 FA Community Shield initially and after finding out it was actually a source for the weather, you could re-add if you want because the service is reliable for things like that. This is not a necessity, so I have changed to support nevertheless. --K. Peake 06:58, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for comments, @Kyle Peake:, I've addressed them all. NapHit (talk) 19:44, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Director comment - this nomination has been stalled for a few weeks. There needs to be more of a consensus before this gets promoted. GamerPro64 01:12, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:00, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I think Bryanrutherford makes a good point about The Invincibles (English football) about its possible inclusion in said topic, currently neutral. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 14:21, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Support. Although I understand why users want The Invincibles (English football) included, I think the single matches Arsenal participated in and have a wiki article (the CS final, Battle of OT) and the season itself will do for this topic, since The Invincibles is also about the PNE team from the 19th century. I therefore support this nom - great work. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 07:07, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Closed with a consensus to promote to Good Topic. - GamerPro64 22:30, 14 August 2021 (UTC)