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Category:Games with special editions to Category:Computer and video games with special editions

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 19:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The category only refers to computer and video games and not any other kind of games. Pikawil 23:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Rename per nom. David Kernow 01:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Delete The whole thing should be removed, as it basically a poor derivative a much more useful LIST page of such games that was started, and furthermore they included. A catergory is harder to maintain, makes the assumption that each game's page even mentions the special edition, and further does not do anything to describe what makes ths special editions special. At the very least it's frusterating that a much less useful page using my own writing is allowed to exist where one I purposefully helped to create is not. Furthermore, the additions seen since creation do not even have special editions, it is indiscriminate in it's current state, and would balloon to massive proportions. The superior list page is coming back anyways after being worked out more. Deusfaux 10:13, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not sure what kind of visitor would want to use it. --CTSWyneken 15:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Weather control to Category:Weather modification

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 21:16, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"weather modification" name is acknowledged name for these topics. Example of a book "Weather modification by cloud seeding, A. S. Dennis, Int. Geophys. Series, vol. 24, 1980 Pflatau 22:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Singers

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The result of the debate was redirect Category:Vocalists, rename others per nom. Conscious 04:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A few of the relevant categories use "vocalists", which seems to add little except an air of pretension. It is not normal usage and the great majority of the related categories use "singer".

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Category:Fans of the Mysterious Cities of Gold to Category:Wikipedians who are fans of The Mysterious Cities of Gold

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The result of the debate was Rename Vote 3R 1D. Rename 2 for nom one for other, rename per nom. Vegaswikian 17:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedian user categories should have "Wikipedians" as part of their name. SCHZMO ✍ 21:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedians in Red Sox Nation

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The result of the debate was speedy deleted (c3). Conscious 05:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only one user in category, redundant with Category:Boston Red Sox fans. Associated with Template:User RSN which I also proposed for deletion. SCHZMO ✍ 21:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Google alumni

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 18:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Empty. Not exactly sure what a "Google alumnus" is. SCHZMO ✍ 21:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Users who are or formerly a member of College Confidential Forum

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The result of the debate was delete user vanity cats. Syrthiss 20:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This category is associated with Template:User College Confidential, which was proposed for deletion here as a redlink Userbox referring to a non-notable subject. SCHZMO ✍ 21:04, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the new one that someone is working on. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Confidential


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Category:Rebel Alliance members

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 18:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Only 5 users in this category and unlikely to grow; Rebel Alliance is a non-notable forum with less than 150 members. Template:User RebelForums has already been deleted as linkspam. SCHZMO ✍ 20:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. Government reports to Category:Reports of the United States government

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 21:18, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Two reasons: 1) US->United States; and 2) Similar format of other subcategories of Category:Government of the United States. —Markles 19:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Upcoming television shows to Category:Upcoming television

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The result of the debate was No consensus. Vegaswikian 21:42, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The old name didn't cover the extent of the category anymore. Category Talk:Upcoming television shows and Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Television#Poll Temporal Issues there was a debate on wether to seperate the future TV products into multiple categories, but it was decided a single category would suffice and therefor now a CFR to have the Cat name better reflect it's collection of articles. The DJ 19:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  1. I oppose a category split (too little content, and episodes are already questionable)
  2. not all programs are shows, so it's a bad name. You can call the Weather report a program, but it'll be tough to find someone calling it a show.
  3. program vs. programme what to say. there's no resolution. i couldn't care less, for all I care you make it "program(me)"
  4. perhaps "programming" is an alternative. this is usually considered to be the top-level of all TV content, though it's more of a process then a correct 'collection of content'.
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Category:Montana musicians to be merged with Category:Musicians from Montana

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The result of the debate was Reverse merge. Vegaswikian 18:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC) I don't see a distinction betwixt these two categories and would like to request they be merged. I have no preference/opinion as to which category should be retained. Deejayk 19:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reverse Merge. Almost all members of Category:American musicians by state are of the form fooian musicians. Category:Musicians of Hawaii appears to be the only other exception. Vegaswikian 19:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reverse merge per Vegaswikian. Postdlf 03:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirected Category:Musicians from Montana to Category:Montana musicians and updated all members.
    • Category:Musicians from Montana still needs to be deleted at the end of this discussion. A redirect does not need to be left in place. Vegaswikian 23:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • I've often wondered why we ever delete redirects, considering that there's a bot that automatically moves articles accidentally placed in redirects, but does not remove articles accidentally placed in deleted categories (or the categories themselves). Why shouldn't we be creating category redirects by the boatload to prevent accidental recreations and duplications the same way we do with article redirects? Is there something about the bot process I'm not understanding? Postdlf 23:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        • I believe that editors should put items into the right category, or at least a parent of the right category. If their selected cat shows up as a redlink, they should realize something is wrong and fix it. The bot functions as a crutch to cleanup mistakes that should not be happening. However, your point is valid and maybe that could be the policy, even if it is unlikely for the category to be used. Since most editors don't watch cat pages, it might be wise to protect those pages also so that someone does not switch things when no one is looking. Vegaswikian 15:50, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
          • I agree, the mistakes shouldn't be happening. But even with categories that I've created, it often takes me a few tries when to remember the exact wording. Keeping the redirects will ensure that the mistakes will get bot-corrected if the contributor doesn't realize they've been made (or gives up trying to figure out the proper combination of proposition and capitalization used in, say, Category:National Parks of the United States). And yes, the redirects should be protected as a matter of course. Postdlf 16:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Publications of the United States Government to Category:Publications of the United States government

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Category:Legislative Branch of the United States Government to Category:Legislative branch of the United States government

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Category:Executive Branch of the United States Government to Category:Executive branch of the United States government

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Category:Judicial Branch of the United States Government to Category:Judicial branch of the United States government

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The result of the debate was Rename all. Vegaswikian 21:19, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:United States Senate Chaplains to Category:Chaplains of the United States Senate

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 21:22, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. federal courthouses to Category:Federal courthouses of the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 21:44, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:U.S. Telephone Directory Publishers to Category:Telephone directory publishing companies of the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 21:23, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Albums by number recent additions

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 19:03, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excessive categorization; little is gained by comparing albums by their position in musicians' release histories. Also, where do you stop once you start making these? And do you extend the system to other media? (Category:Novels by number?) (Note Category:Debut albums, Category:Second albums, and Category:Final albums are being kept.) –Unint 15:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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People by nationality sub-category pages

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 21:27, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename/Merge all to conventional naming for Category:People by nationality sub-cat pages. Mayumashu 14:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Foreigners of the Philippines

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The result of the debate was rename to Category:Foreigners in the Philippines. Conscious 19:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Foreigners of the Philippines" sounds very awkward. Ultimately, we'll end up having all foreign nationals in the Philippines listed under this category. It would be more appropriate to use "Famous Foreign Nationals in the Philippines" *Oppose Category names should never include the word "famous". I don't like this category name much though. Hawkestone 13:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep the renaming (ie. use of the word famous) is erroneous by conventions in place here. but there s no reason to delete as similar categories exist for other Asian countries (Category:Foreigners in Japan, Category:Foreigners in China). these are long-term residents to the country ('expatriates'), but non-citizens and therefore "foreigners". (the term expatriate may be a better choice, but the cat page should remain) Mayumashu 02:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Filipino television directors

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The result of the debate was Keep. Vegaswikian 21:46, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

most Filipino directors do work on television, film, theater and commercials. may be too restricting. 7258 13:02, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Filipino writers

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The result of the debate was merge from Category:Writers from the Philippines. Conscious 04:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Filipino writers" as a category is problematic since it is ambiguous. it may refer to the Philippines national language "Filipino." The problem is, the Philippines has at least 80 languages and many of these languages have their own literatures. Using "Filipino" to describe writers and literatures from the Philippines can be controversial, ambiguous and politically incorrect. Writers in the other Philippine languages may be offended. "Writers from the Philippines" is a more appropriate category to embrace all writers from the Philippines -- whether they are writing in that country's various literary languages: English, Filipino, Spanish, Tagalog, Ilocano, Bikol, Kapampangan, Hiligaynon, Cebuano, Kiniray-a and several others. This category does not offend those who are writing in the other Philippine languages.

See also: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_May_5#Category:Philippine_writers -- ProveIt (talk) 20:23, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Buena Vista Television shows to Category:Buena Vista television shows

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Conscious 19:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

capitalization is incorrect. Esprit15d 12:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC).[reply]

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Category:Power Ranger episodes to Category:Power Rangers episodes

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 21:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Correct series name is "Power Rangers" not "Power Ranger", and to keep in line with other subcats. Supermorff 12:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Self-Promotion Audio Web Services

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 18:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Unused. Conscious 11:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC).[reply]

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Category:Sporting Testimonial events to Category:Football (soccer) players awarded a testimonial match

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 21:38, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At least rename to reflect the actual content of the category. Possibly delete altogether (this looks more like trivia than useful categorization). Conscious 09:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC).[reply]

  • If kept, rename as per nom, but I would prefer to delete it altogether. It's trivial information for each player's article, and there are many thousands of players who have had testimonials, so it's not a particularly notable fact. — sjorford++ 10:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename. It may be useful information to some. --Pkchan 10:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I don't really see the point - many players get testimonials, some don't, but it's a trivial fact at best. Qwghlm 11:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Aside: Is "Football (soccer)" used in this (and a few other categories I've seen) to placate non-U.S. folk?  No consensus to use simply "Soccer"?  Curious, David Kernow 12:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm interested in this too, since the parenthises are rubbing me the wrong way. Although, I would vote for the standard to be football, since soccer is not a big sport in the US, and elsewhere the sport is almost universally known as football, and the international organization (FIFA) uses the term football. I think if anyone is being placated, it's us Americans.--Esprit15d 12:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • General consensus for a while has been to use the form "football (soccer)" in titles where the article covers the whole world, or areas where both terms are used (e.g. List of football (soccer) competitions). Where the subject deals only with one country, or there is no ambiguity, just "football" or "soccer" are used as appropriate (e.g. List of football clubs in England, List of soccer clubs in the United States). It does look ugly, I agree, but it was generally reckoned to be the least worst option, as just writing "football" is too ambiguous, and "association football" or just "soccer" were both unacceptable to many people. The good folks of WikiProject Football can probably furnish examples of actual discussion on the matter. — sjorford++ 13:39, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks for that report, sjorford. Somehow I guess offering "soccer" to football fans or "gridiron" to football fans would (re)open Pandora's Box either way... Regards, David Kernow 19:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Qwghlm. Seems better as a list.--Esprit15d 12:57, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment I would suggest that the use of categories is precisely to avoid lists, which are even less maintainable; see for instance this CfD, as well as the discussion here. With this category, at least we can have a low-maintenance mechanism to keep track of these players with testimonials for those who are interested in this subject. --Pkchan 16:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Trivial attribute of a career. Hawkestone 13:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not category material. Research for this sort of minor fact in articles should be covered by search. If it can't handle that yet, we'll just have to wait until it does. Adding more and more categories to pinpoint every conceivable connecting fact in different articles is not the way to go. Bhoeble 10:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sri Lanka Tamil people

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 18:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Empty, blanked by creator, redundant to Category:Tamil Sri Lankans. Conscious 08:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC).[reply]

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Category:Fermented drinks

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 18:53, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Already exists as Category:Fermented beverages. Webaware 08:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:TSR to Category:TSR, Inc.

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 21:32, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The category name should be more descriptive (see TSR) and match the name of the main article TSR, Inc. Conscious 08:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC).[reply]

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Restaurants by region

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 18:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Another lamentable example of the American habit of assuming that the rest of the world doesn't exist, or if it does, it is too unimportant to be worth taking into account. The three subcategories do not fit into the wider United States category system and each of them contains only one state or city subcategory, and they are already in Category:Restaurants in the United States.[reply]

Delete all CalJW 06:42, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:United States geology to Category:Geology of the United States

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 21:32, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to concur with the format used for the other subcategories of category:regional geology. Sumahoy 03:57, 15 May 2006 (UTC).[reply]

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Category:McMahonists

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 21:36, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a category for people who were involved in a single wrestling storyline. All of these people are already in appropriate categories involving pro-wrestling and the WWE, the category is just overly redundant. Toffile 03:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The following 4 entries are from the uncategorized categories list. -- ProveIt (talk) 00:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Famous Phi Sigs

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The result of the debate was Rename. Vegaswikian 21:34, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Category:Phi Sigma Kappa members.
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Category:Czech porn models

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 18:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See: Category:Czech porn stars.
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Category:Jothishkumar

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 19:01, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Inexplicable.
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Category:Takhat Sachkhand Shri Hazur Abchalnagar Sahib

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The result of the debate was Delete. Vegaswikian 19:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not a category.
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