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- The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. The result of the discussion was Approved.
Automatic or Manually Assisted: Manually started, performs edits automatically.
Programming Language(s): Uses AWB with autosave function
Function Overview: Various Wikiproject template maintenance tasks on article talk pages, as requested at Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Tagging_for_WP_Journals.
Edit period(s): continuous, as needed
Already has a bot flag (Y/N): Y
- All articles which transclude {{Infobox journal}} or any redirect thereto will have their talk pages tagged with {{WikiProject Academic Journals}}, if not already present.
- All articles which transclude {{Infobox academic conference}}, {{Academic-journal-stub}}, {{humanities-journal-stub}}, {{sci-journal-stub}}, {{biology-journal-stub}}, {{chem-journal-stub}}, {{engineering-journal-stub}}, {{med-journal-stub}}, {{physics-journal-stub}}, {{socialscience-journal-stub}} or any redirect thereto will also have their talk pages tagged with {{WikiProject Academic Journals}}, if not already present.
- Article talk pages which transclude {{WikiProject Academic Journals}} without an associated "class=" parameter will have this parameter imported from other banner templates, when possible.
- Talk pages tagged with {{WikiProject Academic Journals}} whose associated articles do not transclude {{Infobox journal}} or any redirect thereto will have the "needs-infobox=yes" parameter added to {{WikiProject Academic Journals}}, if not already present.
- Talk pages whose calls to {{WikiProject Academic Journals}} include the "needs-infobox=yes" parameter, but whose associated articles transclude {{Infobox journal}} or any redirect thereto will have this parameter removed.
Discussion
[edit]- Treat {{Infobox academic conference}} the same as {{Infobox journal}}, rather than as the stub templates. Rich Farmbrough, 23:07, 10 August 2009 (UTC).[reply]
- Okay, though I'm not seeing how they could be treated differently: the behavior in either case would be tagging the talk pages with {{WikiProject Academic Journals}}, if not already present. Erik9 (talk) 14:16, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah well you split them into two bullets. I see that the same action is taken for both. Rich Farmbrough, 18:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC).[reply]
- Link to note at wikiproject. By transcluding the redirects, you don't mean you'll be putting the wikiproject banner on the talk pages of dabs and the like? Or do you? --68.127.233.138 (talk) 02:01, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The phrase "any redirect thereto" refers to the tagging of talk pages whose associated articles transclude redirects to the templates listed -- e.g. template:Infobox Academic Conference instead of template:Infobox academic conference; disambiguation talk pages would not be tagged, unless their associated pages transcluded the relevant templates or redirects to the templates, which seems unlikely. Erik9 (talk) 14:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. --68.127.233.138 (talk) 18:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The phrase "any redirect thereto" refers to the tagging of talk pages whose associated articles transclude redirects to the templates listed -- e.g. template:Infobox Academic Conference instead of template:Infobox academic conference; disambiguation talk pages would not be tagged, unless their associated pages transcluded the relevant templates or redirects to the templates, which seems unlikely. Erik9 (talk) 14:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, though I'm not seeing how they could be treated differently: the behavior in either case would be tagging the talk pages with {{WikiProject Academic Journals}}, if not already present. Erik9 (talk) 14:16, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Approved for trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete. MBisanz talk 19:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments: First, {{WP Journals}} should be used rather than {{WikiProject Academic Journals}}, it's neater, and is the preferred use from what I see. Second, |class= should always be added for convenience (editors will eventually write something there, and I know from experience that writing |class= everytime is very annoying when you're doing assessment runs). The |needs-infobox=yes adding/removal was not tested. Does it work? Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 04:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Is another trial required for the purpose of testing that feature? Erik9 (talk) 16:40, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I dunno if a full blown trial is required, but it should at least be tested in a sandbox (both adding and removing scenarios). If it works once for each type of scenario (all the various spellings of the two infoboxes), it'll work all the time. Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 16:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Setting up effective and representative test cases in userspace is unnecessarily tedious. If it's of vital importance to test the addition and removal of the "needs-infobox=yes" parameter prior to approval, then another mainspace trial should be run. Erik9 (talk) 20:27, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I dunno if a full blown trial is required, but it should at least be tested in a sandbox (both adding and removing scenarios). If it works once for each type of scenario (all the various spellings of the two infoboxes), it'll work all the time. Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 16:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Incidentally, template:WikiProject Academic Journals is used directly, rather than the redirect template:WP Journals, to reduce server load. While WP:NOTBROKEN advises against the replacement of existing redirects with their targets (except under special circumstances, as when a redirect is being deleted), there seems to be no compelling reason to use template redirects rather than the templates themselves in initial placements. Erik9 (talk) 16:50, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Even more incidentally NOTBROKEN's reasons do not apply to template redirects (without possibilities) when the page is being edited anyway. Rich Farmbrough, 18:28, 28 August 2009 (UTC).[reply]
- Is another trial required for the purpose of testing that feature? Erik9 (talk) 16:40, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments: First, {{WP Journals}} should be used rather than {{WikiProject Academic Journals}}, it's neater, and is the preferred use from what I see. Second, |class= should always be added for convenience (editors will eventually write something there, and I know from experience that writing |class= everytime is very annoying when you're doing assessment runs). The |needs-infobox=yes adding/removal was not tested. Does it work? Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 04:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good to approve for me, any final objections? MBisanz talk 19:37, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.