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Case Filed On: 17:04, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

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Have you read the AMA FAQ?

  • Answer: Yes

How would you describe the nature of this dispute? (policy violation, content dispute, personal attack, other)

  • Answer: It started out as a content dispute, but has now become a matter of personal attack.

What methods of Dispute Resolution have you tried so far? If you can, please provide wikilinks so that the Advocate looking over this case can see what you have done.

  • Answer: Began by explaining my edits on * Talk:Lewis Libby (edit | article | history | links | watch | logs). I also raised the issue on WP:BLPN. The other editor began making many disparaging remarks directed at me personally, rather than at my edits. The editor then began harrassing me on my talk page and on the Libby talk page. Although editor had agreed to send this to mediation on talk page, the user refused to join a mediation request, see [1].

What do you expect to get from Advocacy?

  • Answer: The input of an outside observer with a cooler head than the parties involved. The cessation of the other user's harrassment of me. Information about what other steps I might be able to take.

Summary:

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This started out with a disagreement over the appropriateness (or lack thereof) of content on the Lewis Libby page. I felt that it was not appropriate for the page to list the person as "a Jewish lawyer" and to include him in the category of "Jewish American Lawyers." I removed these phrases and category and explained my reasoning in the talk page. After engaging in discussion with NYScholar about this (who objected to my edits), I argued that the category was a violation of WP:BLP guidelines, that the identification of Libby as Jewish was not relevant to the page, and was possibly a violation of privacy as Libby had not publicly self-identified as Jewish. I investigated the sources that were being cited and showed that one was not a reliable source (it listed Wikipedia as its source) and that the others were just reprints of the original primary article. I brought the discussion to the WP:BLPN page, where several editors agreed with me, in whole or in part. Although NYScholar made several edits that properly responded to the issues I had raised, the user made increasingly hostile comments directed at me, rather than the content of my articles. NYScholar also suggested that I was following his edits on other pages, which is false.

Examples (from the Libby talk page):

""NotMyRealName" and others are repeatedly going into articles that I am also working on and deleting references that it has taken me a long time to provide,"

"No one has agreed with facts in your arguments. They have agreed with false presentations of facts in your arguments."

"don't revert irresponsibly (as you have been doing)"

"your stubborn resistance to sourced information and facts presented in them is totally wrong-headed"

"I'm tired of Notmyrealname (who may have previously posted in this talk page using an anon IP or another name) deleting pertinent reliably-sourced information."

NYScholar then made increasingly hostile postings on my user talk page and on the Libby talk page. At this point I put in a request for mediation, but NYScholar declined.


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