Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance/Requests/November 2006/Nobs02/Evidence

Wikipedia:Arbitration policy/Precedents#Dispute resolution

Statement of principle

• users who are in conflict talk to one another on their respective talk pages and on the talk page of any article in dispute.

Cases involving this principle

• Avala

29 July

• 20:14
  • nobs posts at User talk:Cberlet
    • As a gesture of good faith in resolving a myriad of disputes [1]

31 July

• 20:43
  • nobs posts on Cberlet's talk page
    • Dear Sir: I approached you in good faith; please direct any personal sentiments regarding my postings or others to my Talk page. [2]

• 20:45
  • Cberlet responds
    • I have no interest in a side conversation. [3]

3 August

• 19:42
  • Cberlet again responds
    • Please carry out all contact with me through the talk pages of specific articles. I have no interest in continuing to engage with you outside the actual editing process. Messages left here will not be responded to. [4]
• 20:12
  • Cberlet's first RfM; refers to nobs gesture of good faith and application of dispute resolution precedents as
    • harrassment [5]

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Illustrations of dispute

Direct examples of improper and invalid methodology to affect POV.

22 August 2005

• 14:30
  • Unsourced "balance" for primary source citation [6]

22 August 2005

• 15:43
  • Questionable secondary source inserted to refute two fully qualified primary source citations. [7] Also, vagueness & relevency to Venona project questioned by multiple editors.

22 August 2005

• 17:10
  • Direct, unsouced, anonymous original research criticism of primary & secondary citation. [8]. See WP:RS#Unattributed_material.

16 September 2005

• 01:42
  • In a subhead entitled ==Nobs has once again misrepresented sources in his espionage paragraphs== Cberlet charges nobs with "misrepresentation", "inaccurate", "biased", and "false"; Cberlet extracts,
    • " 'The following were members of the Victor Perlo Network'; That statement is not qualified as 'According to Elizabeth Bentley', or 'Elizabeth Bentley has alleged', etc."; says " this is a misrepresentation. " [9]

30 September

• 12:46
  • Cberlet files Summary of Dispute; says "Magdoff was listed by the FBI as in the Perlo Group." [10]

nobs 17:46, 3 October 2005 (UTC) nobs 05:33, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

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from Internet Wayback Machine

17 December

• 21:59
  • personal attack by User:Cberlet on nobs via edit summary [11]; nobs response,
    • This is an outlandish misrepresentation of a personal attack via edit summary. The financial report clearly uses the word, sales. [12] The website clearly uses the words sale of materials. [13].