User talk:Zenawiki
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February 2018
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Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed maintenance templates from Villa Madre Cabrini. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Please see Help:Maintenance template removal for further information on when maintenance templates should or should not be removed. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Velella Velella Talk 10:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Dear Velella, maybe you can help me understanding the issue. I am an historian and I have recently started making available on Wikipedia a trilingual page for each Vìlla in Genoa of historical significance. I do this applying a scientific research approach, accessing documents and utilizing the relevant secondary bibliography when available. I also go on site and make photos when possible, as well as researching historical photographic documentation when available. Said this, I’m new on Wikipedia and I may miss something here. Yesterday you marked the page and indeed it was a stub. Today I added some bibliography (more will come) and others also contributed. This Vìlla is of major historical and social significance for the quarter where it is located, both in the distant past, where it constituted one of the first non religious villas in the area (I will publish the maps shortly, I’m still figuring out the copyright), it has artistic and constructive significance, and has played a large aggregation role in the 20th century. Please help me get this right at the first time in the future and avoid writing pages that get marked. Many thanks for your advice Zenawiki (talk) 10:41, 15 February 2018 (UTC) Zenawiki (talk) 10:41, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- The crucial step is to clearly and unequivocally demonstrate that this is a notable building. Other Wikis in other languages may have lower thresholds for demonstrating notablity. Any casual reader should be able to read the opening paragraph and understand why this building is considered notable and not just interesting, and in the body of the article there should be clear demonstration of this notability using independent and reliable references. In cases like this, mere mentions of the Villa by various authors does not establish notability. Simply being old does not establish notability. There must be something that clearly says that in this part of Italy, this building stands out because......... I could not see that from the text. Velella Velella Talk 10:48, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, this is very clear. Now I understand why a simple translation between languages wouldn’t be enough. I will re-write the article in next days in this light. How can I get it verified and the tag removed once done, as I seem to understand that addressing the issue and removing the tag myself might not be the right approach Zenawiki (talk) 10:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- I will keep any eye out for it over the next few days. Better would be to ask on the article talk page whether editors are now content - I will see that too. Velella Velella Talk 11:01, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
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Proper attribution - copyright infringement - Villa delle Peschiere
[edit]Hi Zenaawiki, Greetings. Your creator of the page above is a copied and pasted in translation from Wiki IT ( see here [1]) to Wiki EN. Please note that proper attribution is require to the original authors - pls see WP:PATT. Please use your own words to add content next time to avoid copy right infringement. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Dear Cassiopeia, I have contributed the text to both the Italian Wikipedia and English Wikipedia for the same entry, starting from original credited sources. Actually I have done this for other pages too: creating both pages or substantially improving the text with original research from reputable sources in one wiki, then writing the other wiki. Thus, I have not translated the pages but written them in parallel, as I’m bilingual. My goal is to ensure that every notable villa and palace in Genoa has a well written entry in English and Italian, based on research. How can avoid this issue in the future? Many thanks Zenawiki (talk) 14:19, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Zenawiki, Good day. Thank you for the info above and tag removed from article and talk page. If you do so on other pages in Wikipedia and you edit first in Wiki IT, do indicated in the talk page as you need and provide link. Secondly - indicated in the edit summary you are the same author as per Wiki IT before you save. Thank you very much for contribution to Wikipedia. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:45, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for March 29
[edit]An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Genoa: Le Strade Nuove and the system of the Palazzi dei Rolli, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Italian (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver).
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Hi Zenawiki, Greetings. Ref #1 and #3 of the above page you created point to "page not found"- see here [2] and [3]. You might want to check if you cite the correct URL correctly. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:07, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Good evening Cassiopeia, I have fixed the links, thanks for spotting this! Zenawiki (talk) 20:47, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Zenawki, Good morning, Thank for sorting it out. Appropriate it. I have put 2 citation needed tags in the page. (1) there is no mention Via Balbi is a street is one of the Strade Nuove streets on the source and (2) "the Spanish crown financed the undertakings" is not found in the source as well. Also there are 2 inline citations from a book, kindly cite the "page" so the review could go to the page to verify the content instead of reading the whole book which I dont think any pattroller would do that :). By the way, I have been to Italy, it is a very beautiful country and would love to go back there again in the future. Have a good day. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 22:46, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Good evening Cassiopeia, I have added more references and text to the article. I will add more soon. I hope you get to visit Genoa when you go to Italy next, and find these articles useful :) Zenawiki (talk) 19:25, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
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