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First women MPs in Bulgaria
[edit]Hello. As you seem to know about Bulgarian politics, I am trying to compile a list of the first women MPs in each country, but have not been able to find out the answer for Bulgaria. Different sources state between eight and twelve women were elected in the 1945 elections, possibly including Ekaterina Avramova, Tsola Dragoicheva, Rada Todorova and Vera Zlatareva. Do you know where I can find a reliable source with a definitive answer. Cheers, Number 57 14:00, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not sure about specific names, but the first female MPs were elected in 1945, 16 in total, that was during the 26th National Assembly, you can find more data about the number/percentage in the Bulgarian version of Women's suffrage. Couldn't find a credible source for their names, sorry. Dimitrana Ivanova is a good example of a local suffragist. --Yupyuphello (talk) 15:22, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- I found a source with their names: Stoyanka Ivanova Ancheva, Ekaterina Stafanova Avramova, Tsola Dragoycheva, Stanka Hrisova Ivanova, Tzvetlana Prokopieva Keranova, Elena Vladimirova Ketzkarova, Mara Ivanova Kinkel, Venera Stoyanova Klincharova, Viara Kostova Makedonska, Stafana Vladimirova Markova, Ekaterina Hristova Nikolova, Rada Iordanova Noeva, Rada Ivanova Pophlebarova, Mata Nikolova Tjurkedlieva, Maria Naidenova Toteva and Vera Zlatareva. However, some of the spellings don't look quite right - are there any that need correcting. Cheers, Number 57 22:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Number 57: Send me the original link so I can see if they're different, if it's in Cyrillic. These might be the old-school transliterations. I can guesstimate how to fix most of these, but need to double-check the original Cyrillic, as names have changed a lot since then :) --Yupyuphello (talk) 22:31, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- It's from a book which is not visible online. The above is the spelling in said book except for Zlatareva (who we have an article on); the book spells her name 'Viara'. I've also added the middle names if it helps. Cheers, Number 57 22:42, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Number 57: Okay, I found this official document and on page 4 are the names of all of the people that got elected. Here are my proposed transliterations, based on the modern system that's in use since 2012 or so. I wil note that Radka Pophlebarova's name is written Радка Иванова п. Хлебарова and I'm guesstimating that that п. stands for Поп. I saw her being mentioned as Hlebarova in the official documents, so no idea which one is appropriate, go with the below suggestion for now. Vera Zlatareva is written as Вяра (Vyara) everywhere, I've queried the original article creator in Bulgarian, maybe the English page will have to be renamed too.
- It's from a book which is not visible online. The above is the spelling in said book except for Zlatareva (who we have an article on); the book spells her name 'Viara'. I've also added the middle names if it helps. Cheers, Number 57 22:42, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Number 57: Send me the original link so I can see if they're different, if it's in Cyrillic. These might be the old-school transliterations. I can guesstimate how to fix most of these, but need to double-check the original Cyrillic, as names have changed a lot since then :) --Yupyuphello (talk) 22:31, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- I found a source with their names: Stoyanka Ivanova Ancheva, Ekaterina Stafanova Avramova, Tsola Dragoycheva, Stanka Hrisova Ivanova, Tzvetlana Prokopieva Keranova, Elena Vladimirova Ketzkarova, Mara Ivanova Kinkel, Venera Stoyanova Klincharova, Viara Kostova Makedonska, Stafana Vladimirova Markova, Ekaterina Hristova Nikolova, Rada Iordanova Noeva, Rada Ivanova Pophlebarova, Mata Nikolova Tjurkedlieva, Maria Naidenova Toteva and Vera Zlatareva. However, some of the spellings don't look quite right - are there any that need correcting. Cheers, Number 57 22:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Venera Stoyanova Klincharova (Венера Стоянова Клинчарова)
- Dr. Vyara Dimitrova Zlatareva (д-р Вяра Димитрова Златарева)
- Vyara Kostova Makedonska (Вяра Костова Македонска)
- Ekaterina Stefanova Avramova (Екатерина Стефанова Аврамова)
- Ekaterina Hristova Nikolova (Екатерина Христова Николова)
- Elena Vladimirova Ketskarova (Елена Владимирова Кецкарова)
- Mara Ivanova Kinkel (Мара Иванова Кинкел)
- Maria Naydenova Toteva (Мария Найденова Тотева)
- Mata Nikolova Tyurkedzhieva (Мата Николова Тюркеджиева)
- Rada Yordanova Noeva (Рада Йорданова Ноева) - née Todorova
- Radka Ivanova Pophlebarova (Радка Иванова Попхлебарова) - she assumed office late February 1946, after Adam Karl Tranka passed away.
- Stanka Hristova Ivanova (Станка Христова Иванова)
- Stefana Vladimirova Markova (Стефана Владимирова Маркова)
- Stoyanka Ivanova Ancheva (Стоянка Иванова Анчева)
- Tsvetana Prokopieva Keranova (Цветана Прокопиева Керанова)
- Tsola Nincheva Dragoycheva (Цола Нинчева Драгойчева)
- Vyara Zlatareva used "Vera Zlatareva" after 45, at least when she had articles and books published under her name. Whether that was her legal name, I'm not 100% sure --Yupyuphello (talk) 13:07, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Many thanks for the list above. It would seem that Pophlebarova should not be listed as the first, as she was slightly after the others. Cheers, Number 57 17:40, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Vyara Zlatareva used "Vera Zlatareva" after 45, at least when she had articles and books published under her name. Whether that was her legal name, I'm not 100% sure --Yupyuphello (talk) 13:07, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
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