User talk:Yrgh
Blade Bladeson
[edit]A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Blade Bladeson, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Magioladitis (talk) 18:49, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Phillip Chancellor III
[edit]A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Phillip Chancellor III, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Magioladitis (talk) 18:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Joyce Riley
[edit]Please do not make personal attacks. Wikipedia has a strict policy against personal attacks. Attack pages and images are not tolerated by Wikipedia and are speedily deleted. Users who continue to create or repost such pages and images in violation of our biographies of living persons policy will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thank you.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}}
to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Beeblbrox (talk) 20:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Elena Lyons
[edit]I have nominated Elena Lyons, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elena Lyons. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Cirt (talk) 12:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC) Cirt (talk) 12:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Blade Bladeson
[edit]I have nominated Blade Bladeson, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blade Bladeson. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Cirt (talk) 12:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC) Cirt (talk) 12:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Phillip Chancellor III
[edit]I have nominated Phillip Chancellor III, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Phillip Chancellor III. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Cirt (talk) 12:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC) Cirt (talk) 12:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of American Gulf War Veterans Association
[edit]A tag has been placed on American Gulf War Veterans Association requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a club, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guidelines for people and for organizations.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}}
to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Message from XENUcomplaints? leave me a message! 17:02, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Joyce Riley
[edit]A tag has been placed on Joyce Riley, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}}
to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Message from XENUcomplaints? leave me a message! 17:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Kirby Scott
[edit]A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Kirby Scott, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:
- No evidence that this person is notable. Unreferenced for two years now.
All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Fram (talk) 09:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Copyright problems with Phillip Chancellor III
[edit]Hello. Concerning your contribution, Phillip Chancellor III, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.soapcentral.com/yr/whoswho/phillipiii.php. As a copyright violation, Phillip Chancellor III appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. Phillip Chancellor III has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message.
If you believe that the article or image is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License (CC-BY-SA) then you should do one of the following:
- If you have permission from the author, leave a message explaining the details at Talk:Phillip Chancellor III and send an email with the message to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
- If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and CC-BY-SA, under CC-BY-SA, or released into the public domain leave a note at Talk:Phillip Chancellor III with a link to where we can find that note.
- If you hold the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the CC-BY-SA and GFDL, and note that you have done so on Talk:Phillip Chancellor III.
However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright concerns very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Thank you. Rocksey (talk) 19:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Earren Magnum
[edit]The article Earren Magnum has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- unsourced BLP with no significant assertion of notability; no indication of any reasonable opportunity for article expansion, generally dubious
While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}}
will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:41, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of Nate Christianson
[edit]I have nominated Nate Christianson, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nate Christianson. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 02:36, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Unreferenced BLPs
[edit]Hello Yrgh! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 26 of the articles that you created are Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. Please note that all biographies of living persons must be sourced. If you were to add reliable, secondary sources to these articles, it would greatly help us with the current 318 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:
- Dena Higley - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Carolyn Culliton - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Lisa Seidman - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Julian Bailey (actor) - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Lisa de Cazotte - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Paula Cwikly - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Janice Ferri Esser - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Eric Freiwald - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Christopher Goutman - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Tom Casiello - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
More...
|
---|
11. Marissa Tait 12. Andrew Lee (director) 13. Eleanor Labine 14. Matthew Labine 15. Gordon Rayfield 16. Marc Hertz 17. Chris Abbott 18. Rhoda Griffis 19. Jeff Gottesfeld 20. Shelly Altman 21. Ron Carlivati 22. Mark Christopher (writer) 23. Lisa Connor 24. Susan Dansby 25. Christopher Dunn 26. Stacey Adams |
Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 15:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Stacey Adams
[edit]An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Stacey Adams. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").
Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stacey Adams. Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).
You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate.
Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:07, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Joshua S. McCaffrey
[edit]A tag has been placed on Joshua S. McCaffrey requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.
If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website but have permission from that owner, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}}
to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Airplaneman talk 00:48, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of Judith Donato
[edit]I have nominated Judith Donato, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Judith Donato. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. — TAnthonyTalk 05:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of Susan Dansby
[edit]I have nominated Susan Dansby, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susan Dansby. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. — TAnthonyTalk 05:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Amanda L. Beall
[edit]An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Amanda L. Beall. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").
Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amanda L. Beall. Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).
You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate.
Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:06, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Julian Fantechi
[edit]The article Julian Fantechi has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- BLP tagged for verifibility issues since 2007
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. 50.197.143.157 (talk) 23:22, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Nomination of Marissa Tait for deletion
[edit]A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Marissa Tait is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marissa Tait until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:42, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Head Writer listed at Redirects for discussion
[edit]An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Head Writer. Since you had some involvement with the Head Writer redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Dicklyon (talk) 03:14, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Nomination of Joshua S. McCaffrey for deletion
[edit]A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Joshua S. McCaffrey is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joshua S. McCaffrey until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Mattg82 (talk) 16:03, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
The article John Bolger has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Boleyn (talk) 19:36, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi, have moved this article to draftspace because it needs references to WP:Reliable sources. IMDb is not a reliable source, refards Atlantic306 (talk) 12:27, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:John Bolger
[edit]Hello, Yrgh. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "John Bolger".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}
, {{db-draft}}
, or {{db-g13}}
code.
If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Lapablo (talk) 15:08, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
The article Patrick Mulcahey has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Subject has requested article deletion, and article does not appear notable (there's lots of sources available, but tend to fail either independent or in-depth)
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Natalie Minardi Slater for deletion
[edit]The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natalie Minardi Slater until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
GenQuest "scribble" 00:39, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
The article Mark Christopher (writer) has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Liz Read! Talk! 20:51, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
The article Wendy Riche has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Fails to establish notability, lots of biographical fluff, only reference beyond one Emmy nomination in 1983 is from a minor youtube channel.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.
This bot DID NOT nominate any of your contributions for deletion; please refer to the history of each individual page for details. Thanks, FastilyBot (talk) 10:01, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of David Chisum for deletion
[edit]The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Chisum until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Bgsu98 (talk) 18:24, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of Addie Walsh for deletion
[edit]The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Addie Walsh until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 03:11, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
The article Stephen Demorest has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Unref blp
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Boleyn (talk) 21:38, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Adrian Alvarado for deletion
[edit]The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adrian Alvarado until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.