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on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! Hwy43 (talk) 06:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Medicine Hat notable residents
[edit]Hi Yo918, thanks for taking the time to drop a note, and expressing interest in WP guidelines, instead of engaging in an edit war which new users often do. You have every right to be proud of your brother's accomplishments. Like you, I'm quite proud of a former hockey teammate whose played in the NHL and recently represented Canada at the Spengler Cup.
I am going to provide three reasons why I deleted the entry, none of which are intended to be personal or to offend.
First, the Greg Morrison article you wikilinked in your edit was an article about a different person of the same name who is a writer/composer, not a former pro baseball player. Since the wikilinked article was about a different person, your brother's notability could not be verified by the wikilinked article.
Second, please review WP:BASEBALL/N. As a former pro baseball player, did Greg ever play a game in the MLB? If so, the information you provided didn't advise that he did. What it did do is advise that he was within organization of two MLB clubs.
Third, not knowing if he played a game in the MLB, a verifiable reference wasn't included per criteria #5 at WP:BASEBALL/N. If a verifiable reference can be provided per a published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject (as described in criteria #5), then that may be sufficient to list him as a notable resident. If you could provide some references, I'll review to see if they attest his baseball notability. In the meantime, is there any other criteria under WP:BASEBALL/N that may render him notable according to WP standards?
As for the others listed in the Notable residents section, I wasn't watching this article when all or most were added, so others on the list may very well not be notable at all, or less notable compared to other notables. At this moment, I don't have the time to audit the notability of those listed within the whole section of the article, but I may do so in the future. Hwy43 (talk) 06:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- I have researched Greg Morrison and his achievements that you provided. In my opinion, his achievements in the Pioneer League make him notable on Wikipedia among minor leaguers, so long as his notability is referenced with reliable sources. Therefore, I have revised the Medicine Hat Blue Jays (MHBJ) article, providing references to support the content about him there. I then re-added him as a notable resident on the Medicine Hat article, summarizing his reasons for notability per the content about him on the MHBJ article, and provided the same supporting references. In my opinion, this now meets the criteria under WP:BASEBALL/N, but that is only my interpretation of WP:BASEBALL/N. We'll ultimately see if others disagree.
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- Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 05:26, 14 January 2011 (UTC)