User talk:Yahyazia

Yz Solutions

A tag has been placed on Yz Solutions, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group or service and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. -- lucasbfr ^talk 21:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, replying to your comments on the Article talk page here: At Wikipedia, we reference notable companies and people. You should read the WP:CORP policy that might make things clearer. It's also important to realize that Wikipedia strongly discourages articles written by the subjects themselves or by others close to a subject because of the difficulty in writing objectively about yourself, your family, or your work, as stated in our WP:COI policy. I sincerely apologize for the confusion. -- lucasbfr ^talk 06:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

so basically wikipedia, as your statement, does not wish to include the smaller details, only major companies and people, the information of which is widely available, making it yet another source for common knowledge. I was thinking of wiki pedia as a source for free knowledge. Written by people who know something and want to share it without a bias. In my original text i stated the purpose to my company's begining, and wanted it to grow as my company grew. I would write it personally, but without bias or promotion of products. Because this would be a first hand edit, i would think its worth more, not less than when others write about my company once it does become big... I still think i am not wrong in attempting to publish this article. Where else can i petition my cause?Yahyazia 21:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Put like this that is harsh. The idea behind Wikipedia:Notability is, like in every encyclopedia, not to have articles about everything (that would pretty soon get out of hand, spam included), but to have articles about subjects that can be verified, and having an independent work done on them (See WP:Verifiability). I know that seems unfair, but these policies were created for the good of the project. You can contest the deletion by contacting the admin that deleted the article (User:Alphachimp). I hope my message was useful to you nevertheless! -- lucasbfr ^talk 22:11, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well i did not mean to be offensive in any way, and your insights did explain alot. it does seem fair that the policy be inforced, but i will have a natural objection to this since it is my company, and my knowledge that is in question . www.educateme.org was started back in 2004. That is verifiable news, it has not since changed once, my company was formed later on when more funding was required to educate me. I think the real reason i am being denied is that i might seem like a fly by night e business. I will try to contact the admin. lets hope for the best. Thank you you have been very helpful. Yahyazia 02:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also this policy seems of interest to my plea.

Self-published and questionable sources in articles about themselves

Material from self-published sources and sources of questionable reliability may be used in articles about themselves, so long as:

it is relevant to their notability;
it is not contentious;
it is not unduly self-serving;
it does not involve claims about third parties, or about events not directly related to the subject;
there is no reasonable doubt as to who wrote it.

Yahyazia 02:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is that it's very hard to write an article about something you're closely related to. That's why per WP:COI we discourage doing that. The rationale behind if that if the subject is notable enough, someone will eventually write about it, working with reliable sources such as national newspapers, ... An other thought, if you still object the deletion, you might ask the administrator to restore the article and bring it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion where the community debates about the inclusion or the deletion of an article. -- lucasbfr ^talk 10:14, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

how do i get it put back and then place it in under articles for deletion.? ty Yahyazia 15:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok this seems to be my fault, I had a wrong understanding of deletion policies and I thought speedy deletions were not eligible for Deletion Review. Please follow the steps at WP:DRV#Steps_to_list_a_new_deletion_review if you want to have the deletion reviewed. But I believe the deletion will be endorsed as well. Cheers! -- lucasbfr ^talk 09:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]