User talk:Y. Sim
September 2013
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Hello, I'm EvergreenFir. Your recent edit to the page List of massacres in South Africa appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. EvergreenFir (talk) 01:14, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at List of massacres in South Africa. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. EvergreenFir (talk) 02:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- Please define unconstructive edits and vandalism in the context of this page? I am trying to add facts about the ongoing murders of white south africans and am unfamiliar with the editing functions and trying my best to do it right. The facts are not fictitious. White south africans are being murdered because black south africans want the land. --Y. Sim (talk) 10:43, 4 September 2013 (UTC) 4 September 2013 12:40pm.
- There is no White genocide or massacre in South Africa. If mean the farm attacks, there's info here. The only citation you provide is Facebook and you offer a large amount of numbers without any citation. Regardless, it doesn't seem to qualify as a "massacre" as it is not a one-time event. If you think it really should be added to that page, please open a discussion on the talk page.
- I live in South Africa and there is definitely a white genocide occuring. The mainstream media does not report the incidents, but there are sites that are keeping track of the victims of torture, robbery, rape and murders. For years now white south africans have been sending out messages asking for help and sending out information. If this matter requires a separate Wikipedia page, please let me know. I can however give you websites to visit where the statistics are being gathered. And furthermore, in the last week, there have been comments made on FB by black FB users that these murders and attacks are done in order for the black south africans to regain the land and that 300 personell have been brought in from Zimbabwe to help carry out these attacks. You are welcome to visit the FB page which also gathers reports and related information on the white genocide and view the information for yourself. Go here:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/105721352850879/ and the Sunette Bridges News Page and website at Sunette Bridges.co.za. Should you think this information does not need to be added to the List of massacres, then I suggest a separate page be opened. This issue is real and happening in South Africa and is reaching a critical point. The facts need to be published in the public domain by us individuals as the mainstream media dare not do so or the ANC government will make sure they go out of business. It is 20 years since 1994 and a lot has changed here in SA. The ANC government is a communist regime that has seen its president sing "Kill the Boer" and that it will rule SA until Jesus returns. It is time the world gets to see and hear the truth. We need these statistics to be published. Whether on this page or on its own page. It is not just farmers that are being attacked and murdered. It is anyone who is white anywhere in the country. ANC propaganda has turned black people against white people and they now believe there is nothing wrong with what they are doing, but murder is always murder no matter who you are. Even young children and babies, and the elderly, some in their 90's are victims. Our government has cleverly hidden these heinous crimes under general crime statistics and evidence shows they are even falsifying the cause of death on death certificates of white people who have been victims in order to hide the truth. We can no longer keep quiet and wait for the whites in SA to be exterminated like Hitler did with the jews and undesirables. We are being portrayed in the same way Hitler portrayed the jews and we are being treated the same way. How is it that even though people who are white who were not even born before 1990 are being told they are thieves and that they stole the land from the black people? How is it that white children who compete in sports are denied their rightful place in a team because they are white? How is it that a nation of 90% black people has to enforce discriminatory legislation in the work place such that white people can no longer even be considered for a job? Hundreds of thousands of white people are now living in squalid conditions in squatter camps. And even those that wish to emigrate cannot afford to do so. Amongst Afrikaners 85% cannot afford to emigrate. Yet staying in SA is like suicide. It is not a question of if you will be attacked, but when. Why do the white communities have to create closed off neighbourhoods with high security measures just to safeguard themselves? Some communities have full military outfits protecting them. White South Africans have had to convert their homes into jails so that they may have a lesser chance of being attacked. I am sure all of this I have said to you is not public knowledge, and sure it is not known outside of South Africa, but the evidence is there to see if you look in the right places and ask the right questions. --Y. Sim (talk) 22:39, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not the place for your racist propaganda. Take it back to Facebook. EvergreenFir (talk) 00:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. I have taken note of it. However, my facts don't fit the description of propoganda as they are true facts. I'm leaving you with the following information to ponder. Here are the statistics for 2013 for recorded black on white attacks:- JANUARY 2013: 32 Attacks, 2 Raped, 19 Murdered, FEBRUARY 2013: 17 Attacks, 1 Raped, 13 Murdered, MARCH 2013: 18 Attacks, 2 Raped, 10 Murdered, APRIL 2013: 45 Attacks, 10 Raped, 18 Murdered, MAY 2013: 75 Attacks, 7 Raped, 24 Murdered, JUNE 2013: 51 Attacks, 2 Raped, 15 Murdered, JULY 2013: 43 Attacks, 4 Raped, 16 Murdered. AUGUST Attacks: 64 Attacks, 105 Victims, 9 Raped, 24 Murdered. Just look at the August statistics. There were 31 days in August. That's more than 1 attack a day and almost 1 murder a day. And September's statistics are continuing in the same trend. --41.13.182.33 (talk) 07:45, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- I would like to point everyone here to WP:SOAP. Please keep political propaganda and conspiracy theories off Wikipedia. Konveyor Belt yell at me 20:45, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply. I have taken note of it. However, my facts don't fit the description of propoganda as they are true facts. I'm leaving you with the following information to ponder. Here are the statistics for 2013 for recorded black on white attacks:- JANUARY 2013: 32 Attacks, 2 Raped, 19 Murdered, FEBRUARY 2013: 17 Attacks, 1 Raped, 13 Murdered, MARCH 2013: 18 Attacks, 2 Raped, 10 Murdered, APRIL 2013: 45 Attacks, 10 Raped, 18 Murdered, MAY 2013: 75 Attacks, 7 Raped, 24 Murdered, JUNE 2013: 51 Attacks, 2 Raped, 15 Murdered, JULY 2013: 43 Attacks, 4 Raped, 16 Murdered. AUGUST Attacks: 64 Attacks, 105 Victims, 9 Raped, 24 Murdered. Just look at the August statistics. There were 31 days in August. That's more than 1 attack a day and almost 1 murder a day. And September's statistics are continuing in the same trend. --41.13.182.33 (talk) 07:45, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not the place for your racist propaganda. Take it back to Facebook. EvergreenFir (talk) 00:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- I live in South Africa and there is definitely a white genocide occuring. The mainstream media does not report the incidents, but there are sites that are keeping track of the victims of torture, robbery, rape and murders. For years now white south africans have been sending out messages asking for help and sending out information. If this matter requires a separate Wikipedia page, please let me know. I can however give you websites to visit where the statistics are being gathered. And furthermore, in the last week, there have been comments made on FB by black FB users that these murders and attacks are done in order for the black south africans to regain the land and that 300 personell have been brought in from Zimbabwe to help carry out these attacks. You are welcome to visit the FB page which also gathers reports and related information on the white genocide and view the information for yourself. Go here:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/105721352850879/ and the Sunette Bridges News Page and website at Sunette Bridges.co.za. Should you think this information does not need to be added to the List of massacres, then I suggest a separate page be opened. This issue is real and happening in South Africa and is reaching a critical point. The facts need to be published in the public domain by us individuals as the mainstream media dare not do so or the ANC government will make sure they go out of business. It is 20 years since 1994 and a lot has changed here in SA. The ANC government is a communist regime that has seen its president sing "Kill the Boer" and that it will rule SA until Jesus returns. It is time the world gets to see and hear the truth. We need these statistics to be published. Whether on this page or on its own page. It is not just farmers that are being attacked and murdered. It is anyone who is white anywhere in the country. ANC propaganda has turned black people against white people and they now believe there is nothing wrong with what they are doing, but murder is always murder no matter who you are. Even young children and babies, and the elderly, some in their 90's are victims. Our government has cleverly hidden these heinous crimes under general crime statistics and evidence shows they are even falsifying the cause of death on death certificates of white people who have been victims in order to hide the truth. We can no longer keep quiet and wait for the whites in SA to be exterminated like Hitler did with the jews and undesirables. We are being portrayed in the same way Hitler portrayed the jews and we are being treated the same way. How is it that even though people who are white who were not even born before 1990 are being told they are thieves and that they stole the land from the black people? How is it that white children who compete in sports are denied their rightful place in a team because they are white? How is it that a nation of 90% black people has to enforce discriminatory legislation in the work place such that white people can no longer even be considered for a job? Hundreds of thousands of white people are now living in squalid conditions in squatter camps. And even those that wish to emigrate cannot afford to do so. Amongst Afrikaners 85% cannot afford to emigrate. Yet staying in SA is like suicide. It is not a question of if you will be attacked, but when. Why do the white communities have to create closed off neighbourhoods with high security measures just to safeguard themselves? Some communities have full military outfits protecting them. White South Africans have had to convert their homes into jails so that they may have a lesser chance of being attacked. I am sure all of this I have said to you is not public knowledge, and sure it is not known outside of South Africa, but the evidence is there to see if you look in the right places and ask the right questions. --Y. Sim (talk) 22:39, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- There is no White genocide or massacre in South Africa. If mean the farm attacks, there's info here. The only citation you provide is Facebook and you offer a large amount of numbers without any citation. Regardless, it doesn't seem to qualify as a "massacre" as it is not a one-time event. If you think it really should be added to that page, please open a discussion on the talk page.