User talk:Wilton gorske
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Alyson Gorske moved to draftspace
[edit]An article you recently created, Alyson Gorske, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Modussiccandi (talk) 21:47, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Alyson Gorske article
[edit]Hello Wilton, I am the editor who moved the article on Alyson Gorske to the draft space. I did this because it did not contain any reliable sources. When we edit articles on living people, it is all the more important that all sources used are reliable and of good quality (more at WP:RS). If you cannot find any such sources on Alyson Gorske, it may not be possible for us to have an article on her. Don't hesitate to contact with queries. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 21:52, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
@Modussiccandi: Thank you for taking a look at the article and moving it to the draft space! I removed information that can't be referenced (particularly the biographical section), and I added some additional streaming services that are well-known to prove Alyson Gorske's involvement in the respective films. Would you mind taking another look at the draft before I submit it for review, please? — Wilton gorske (talk) 01:00, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for trying to improve the draft article. With the exception of YouTube (which is not considered a reliable source), you've used streaming services/e-vendors. While these may help us verify information about Alyson Gorske, they raise other problems which I will explain below.
- All subjects covered on this Wikipedia (other languages may differ) need to be what we call 'notable'. Notability is measured by the general notability guideline (WP:GNG), according to which a subject is notable if it has received substantial coverage in two or more reliable and independent sources. You'll see immediately that the sources you provided don't contribute towards this measure because they are non-independent. (How could a streaming platform publish independent information about a film it sells?) So, in a nutshell, you'll need to find sources that comply with the standard described above. Now there are other less demanding ways to notability (see WP:NACTOR) but in principle I would recommend that you try to gear your draft towards meeting the general notability guideline. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 08:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Modussiccandi: Thank you for the helpful feedback. I have removed the YouTube link as a reference. I included it because it was from the verified account done by Google for Fandango, and they unfortunately only host their clips on YouTube—though that makes sense. I understand your point regarding streaming platforms not qualifying as reliable and independent sources, and I have removed them accordingly. For 616 Wilford Lane, I referenced two sources specifically because they mention Alyson Gorske by name, and they are used on the existing Wikipedia article for the film. While there are many sites covering these films, I have specifically chosen reliable sources that mention Alyson Gorske but do not contain affiliate links (in other words, they don't receive a commission for click-throughs via UTM tracking linking to streaming services). This should help address concerns around the independent nature of the sources.
- All subjects covered on this Wikipedia (other languages may differ) need to be what we call 'notable'. Notability is measured by the general notability guideline (WP:GNG), according to which a subject is notable if it has received substantial coverage in two or more reliable and independent sources. You'll see immediately that the sources you provided don't contribute towards this measure because they are non-independent. (How could a streaming platform publish independent information about a film it sells?) So, in a nutshell, you'll need to find sources that comply with the standard described above. Now there are other less demanding ways to notability (see WP:NACTOR) but in principle I would recommend that you try to gear your draft towards meeting the general notability guideline. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 08:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Please note, I have also done my best to self-disclose that I have a WP:COI on the talk pages of both my user page and the draft article page. Do you believe the article may now be in a good place to submit for review (perhaps as a stub)? Thank you again for your time and assistance regarding this page and maintaining Wikipedia. Best, Wilton gorske (talk) 18:16, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- I would simply try and submit the draft article. It can take some time until someone comes around to reviewing it, so it's better to start queuing as soon as possible. The reviewer will give you a second opinion and further advice. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 18:39, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Please note, I have also done my best to self-disclose that I have a WP:COI on the talk pages of both my user page and the draft article page. Do you believe the article may now be in a good place to submit for review (perhaps as a stub)? Thank you again for your time and assistance regarding this page and maintaining Wikipedia. Best, Wilton gorske (talk) 18:16, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Alyson Gorske (November 7)
[edit]- If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Alyson Gorske and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
- If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Alyson Gorske, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
- If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Hello, Wilton gorske!
Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 20:40, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Concern regarding Draft:Alyson Gorske
[edit]Hello, Wilton gorske. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Alyson Gorske, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.
If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 11:02, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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