User talk:Williamsville

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Emily Browning

Hello. I saw that you recently added an entry to the "see also" section at Emily Browning. I don't understand the significance of it. Can you explain why you added it? It looks like a completely unrelated British TV show. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:51, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

I added it because of the reference in the article, but if you think it unnecessary, feel free to delete it:

"Downton Abbey lead Dan Stevens and My Week With Marilyn's Dominic Cooper are to co-star in a new film set in a Cornish artist’s colony circa 1913". Vintage Seekers. 13 January 2012. Williamsville (talk) 13:28, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I would say that it's undue emphasis to highlight her rather tenuous connection to this TV series. As far as I can tell, she never appeared in it. It takes a bit of time and experience to get used to all of Wikipedia's bureaucratic policies and guidelines, but it's not so bad once you get used to them. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:52, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

OK,, I see now; and thanks for the understanding. Williamsville (talk) 16:44, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Spanking

If we say "see child abuse" it gives the impression that spanking is PER SE child abuse, which is absolutely not the case. If the act is so excessive as to constitute child abuse, it is no longer just a spanking. -- Alarics (talk) 12:24, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Yet, there can be a link. In the body of the article Caning is mentioned and that is clearly child abuse in all jurisdictions in the US and Canada, so I believe the see also should include child abuseWilliamsville (talk) 19:24, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Caning is not "illegal in all jurisdictions". Schools in Singapore and Malaysia and some African countries use caning as an official punishment for student misbehaviour. I think you may be being too US-centric and not taking a world view here. "Caning causes physical injury"? No, it doesn't if applied normally, any more than paddling does, and paddling is the official form of corporal punishment (CP) in US schools in the 19 states that permit CP at all. Just because some jurisdictions don't permit something, does not make it "child abuse". Some people who are opposed to CP argue that all CP is *per se* child abuse, but that is just a campaigning slogan, not a neutral POV.

In any case, this article is about spanking, not caning. It describes caning as a form of spanking but that is not what "spanking" usually means, in British English at any rate. The question is, does ordinary spanking constitute child abuse? And the answer is no, as numerous courts in the US have ruled. -- Alarics (talk) 09:24, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

But it is illegal in the US and Canada, therefore a link is supported. In addition, spanking can cross the line (by leaving a mark or knocking the child down) and become child abuse, therefore a link in the see also is supported. Williamsville (talk) 15:38, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

All sorts of things might "cross the line" into something else, but unless they do so as a matter of course you should not imply that they are the same thing. -- Alarics (talk) 15:46, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Having a link does not imply that, so, again, unless you have some reliable sources, I will proceed to put the see also back Williamsville (talk) 16:51, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

January 2015

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Spanking. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
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In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. While edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount and can lead to a block, breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. Justin.Parallax (talk) 14:23, 6 January 2015 (UTC)