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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 23:12, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bettie de Jong

Dear Madam, Sir, I am living in the Netherlands and new on Wikipedia English version. The article of Bettie de Jong was made for the dutch version of Wikipedia. Please see http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bettie_de_Jong. This was done because Bettie de Jong is well known in the modern dance business. I had many times contact with John Tomlinson, Executive Director Paul Taylor Dance Company and with Bettie de Jong (my aunt) herselve. After I put it on the dutch version I have translated the article in English and have put it on the internet. I dont realy understand why you declined the article. I read that the content has unreliable recources. Could you please tell me which of the content you mean, because I want to make the corrections. Excuse me for my english, I am not very experienced with that. I am looking foreward to your reaction. Kind regards, Willem van Iterson--87.211.183.169 (talk) 10:24, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Willem,

There are two major issues with the sourcing of the article:

Its only reference is a primary source instead of being supported by Secondary sources (I'll explain that in a second)
Not all the content in the article is supported by a source, causing it to fail the biography of living persons policy (I'll explain that in a second as well).

Well, so much for quoting an array of awfully long policy pages and time for some human readable language explaining them. The subject of the article itself is a so-called BLP page, or a "Biography of a living person". These pages are especially sensitive, since they describe a living human being. If - for example - an article such as Battle of the Bulge contains an incorrect statement that would be annoying but unlikely to have any serious repercussions. Mistakes in biographies can be quite a bit more harmful for a person if they are present so those article are treated with exceptional care. As a result everything in these BLP article's should have a decent and reliable source that can be used to verify the content in that article.

A second issue is that the article only contains one underlying reference - a biography on the "Paul Taylor Dance Company" website. This is what they call a primary source, or a source of information that is close to the subject of the article. Wikipedia itself only uses Secondary sources, which are sources somewhat further away from the subject of the article such as newspapers, academic journals, the larger news websites and so on. This criteria is there for two reasons: Sources close to the subject are often not entirely unbiased, and they are used to determine if the subject is notable enough to warrant a stand-alone article.

Hope this helps, and with kind regards, Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 13:37, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your answer. I understand the sensetifity of the content of a BLP. I know the content is correct, I'm not afraid of that. My aunt read it and confirned the content, but I understand that's not enough. Of cource. I have to find more sources and references. I will find it.

How much time do I have before the article is declined definitely?--Willemvaniterson (talk) 11:15, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I must admit i didn't see this reply, and seeing that the article has now been accepted the question might have lost some relevance. Either way, an AFC submission is kept indefinitely when it is declined. The only time a submission is actually deleted is when it is a copyright violation or otherwise against the law (Or the page is just a bunch of swear words or similar). It is not a guarantee that a declined submission will never be cleaned up, but right now they are all kept around. Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 07:29, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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