User talk:Walterswithin

Welcome!

Hi, Walterswithin. Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Our intro page contains a lot of helpful material for new users—please check it out! If you need help, visit Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 13:26, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi, This is the reference for Robert Fripp:

Rock Guitarists by Guitar Player Productions: From the pages of Guitar Player Magazine {King Crimson's Robert Fripp by Steve Rosen pp 65-68., May 1974)

Robert Fripp, lead guitarist with English rock band King Crimson, is a conspicuous personality by appearing inconspicuous. Rather than stand when performing, he perches himself on a stool, and so by doing so has come to be tagged "the guitarist who sits on stage."

Why do you sit down on stage? Because you can't play guitar standing up. At least I can't. In the semi-pro bands I played with, I stood up uncomfortably. With King Crimson I did about three or four gigs standing up, and said, "This is hopeless. I just can't play this way." Greg Lake said "You can't sit down; you'll look like a mushroom.' I felt it wasn't my job to stand up and look moody. My job was to play, and I couldn't play standing up. I generally find it very ........Walterswithin (talk) 13:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

13:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)~~

Minor edits

Thank you for your contributions. Please remember to mark your edits as "minor" only if they truly are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Thank you. —J. M. (talk) 02:43, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Boyce Gardens upload photos

Uploaded some photos to Commons Category "Boyce Gardens"

Photos

Hi, Walterswithin! It's great to have some more photographers on board. I don't see any problems with uploading more photos of Boyce Gardens.

With photos the main principles are that they are relevant to the text of the article in some way and positioned relative to the relevant text in the article. Too many photos is when there are still photos displaying along the right-hand side long after the article text has finished. Try to make the caption such that the link between the photo and the text is apparent to the reader.

But I think you figured all this out for yourself judging from the way you added those photos already; the only thing I would have done differently is to position the photos immediately under the section heading (I just changed the article to do this). When you add a photo into the text stream, you are saying "from this place on, it is ok to display this photo". When Wikipedia shows the article to a reader, the layout of the article depends on the size and shape of their browser screen. So the decision is made at that point where the photo will appear for that reader. You cannot really control where it appears so don't agonise over the positioning of the photo based on where it appears on your screen. Just position it where it should ideally appear to accompany the relevant text and Wikipedia does its best to make that happen.

So, having said all that, to answer your original question. Yes, there is plenty of scope for more photos in this article. AND it is ok if you want to upload more photos above and beyond what you intend to add to the article into Wikimedia Commons, as it is a general photo repository (so long as the photos are illustrating something of "educational value" as opposed to "this is a photos of me and mates getting drunk"). Just one question though, your photo of the swimming pool doesn't seem to show a swimming pool; did it get filled in? If so, maybe maybe add that in the caption e.g. "view of swimming pool (now filled in)" to help the reader interpret the photo relative to the text.

Also, when uploadng photos onto Commons, we do have a category specific for the gardens called "Boyce Gardens". If you look down at the very bottom of an article, there is often a mention of the Commons Category name, which tells you what to use for the photo upload. If you can't find that, then take a stab at the name of a suburb/town or local government area (as you did). I have re-categorised your photos on Commons into the Boyce Gardens category. The category system is hierarchical, meaning that the "Boyce Gardens" category is part of the "Mount Lofty, Queensland" category which is part of ... etc etc, down to being part of the "Toowoomba Region" category (which you used), which is eventually part of the "Queensland" category and so on.

Do you have a nice photo of the Boyces themselves? That might be a nice addition to the article.

And also consider whether a photo you upload could illustrate another article? For example, there are no photos whatsoever in the Mount Lofty, Queensland article which does mention the gardens in its heritage listing section. So you could add a photo of the gardens into that section.

If you have other photos of Toowoomba, they too can be added to the relevant Wikipedia article. We have an article for every town, suburb and locality in Queensland, many of them without photos. There are lists of articles requesting photos to be found in Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Toowoomba Region and similar lists exist for other local government areas. So if you have a lot of photos of lots of places, we could use them! If you have the spare time to go out and take new photos, we have lists of articles begging for photos. So if you enjoy photography, there are many ways you can contribute to Wikipedia. If you have any questions or need help, please don't hesitate to ask me. Kerry (talk) 23:42, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

More on photos and the University website

Thanks for the photo in Mount Lofty, Queensland. When you have the "infobox" over on the right-hand side, the photos get delayed until the infobox is ended. So the way you can avoid this is to position the photo on the left-hand side. You do this by adding "|left" into the photo information, as in:

[[File:Boyce gardens - entrance and driveway.jpg|thumb'''|left'''|Boyce gardens - entrance and driveway.]]

I have made that change already.

As for the information on the University website, you are correct. It is copyright material without any permissions provided that would allow us to you it on Wikipedia "as is". However, copyright protects "expression" not "fact". That is "how you say it" but not the information itself. So you can include the information but you need to rewrite it in your own words (but cite the university website as the source of the information). So for example, you might say:

The Boyces planted proteas and Leucadendrons beside the tennis courts having learned about these plants during a visit to Africa in the 1950s.

References

So yes it is do-able but definitely more work than copy-and-paste. If you want to add content to Wikipedia, I suggest also you need to enable our Visual Editor tool (which works more like Microsoft Word) rather than use the "wikitext editor" (the default which you are currently using). For adding photos, either can do the job. If you intend to write text, I strongly encourage you to use the Visual Editor. To enable it, go to your "Preferences" (top right of screen), then click on the "Editing" tab, scroll down and you will get to a dropdown list called "Editing mode" and select "Show me both editor tabs" and scroll down to the bottom left and click "Save". After that, when you look at a Wikipedia article, you will see two tabs ("Edit" which means use the Visual Editor and "Edit source" which means use the wikitext editor). As always, if you need help, just ask Kerry (talk) 23:10, 26 January 2020 (UTC)