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Re: Protection to user page

Hi, W Tanoto!

There are two types of protection:

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Good luck! Jecowa 19:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Welcome

Hey, thanks for joining, welcome to the project. Imoeng 22:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you could help improve the Magelang article? It would be appreciated - welcome as well - SatuSuro 23:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming me. I actually joined by adding userbox a long time ago, but haven't add my name until yesterday. I'll see what I can do with Magelang article.--w_tanoto 05:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I also did Muntilan some time back - as my wife (Australian) lived high up the west side of Merapi about twenty years ago - and we made contact with some of the business persons there on Jl Pemuda... but thats a very long story SatuSuro 08:50, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Lol. My home is number 92A, Jalan Pemuda. It's empty now, as we moved to Jakarta 1994. Most of my relatives still lives there. My maternal grandma was buried in Muntilan, while my paternal grandparents are in Soropadan. BTW, there's a rather nice restaurant (although the place is ugly), called Mbok Kerto lol.--w_tanoto 08:58, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: rename IP address to user name

I accidentally edit Wikipedia when I'm logged out too. No, you can't change the IP addresses to your user name in an article's page history, and you can't add those IP edits to your contribution page. Some people will put links to their contributions under their IP address(es) on their user page so others can see the contributions they accidentally make while logged out. If you want to do this too, just add something like [[Special:Contributions/147.197.215.16|My contributions under 147.197.215.16]] to your user page. Let me know if you have anymore questions! Davidelit 12:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Re:Allah

So in Indonesian, it is correct to refer to Vishnu or Buddha as 'Allah'? Davidelit 12:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

'Dewa' is a Sanskrit word and is a cognate of Lithuanian 'Dievas' (God - used by Lithuanian Catholics). With respect to Hindu and other non-Abrahamic gods it's best to translate it as 'god' or 'deity' in English. 'Idol' would be regarded as offensive by polytheists. Davidelit 12:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject Catholicism!

Hello, W Tanoto/Archive 1, and welcome to Wikiproject Catholicism! Thank you for your generous offer to help
contribute. I'm sure your input will be much appreciated. I hope you enjoy contributing here and being a Catholic Project Wikipedian! If you have any questions, feel free to discuss anything on the project talk page, or to leave a message on my own talk page. Please remember to sign all your comments, and be bold with your edits. Again, welcome, and happy editing! --Davidelit 12:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Fauzi Bowo

Hi W Tanoto. I reverted your changes to Fauzi Bowo because Sutiyoso is still governor until October 7, see: http://www.antara.co.id/arc/2007/8/16/kpu-tetapkan-fauzi-bowo-prianto-pemenang-pilkada-dki-2007/ and http://www.kompas.co.id/ver1/Pilkada/0708/16/220638.htm After that date, I will restore your infobox if you don't beat me to it :-).
PS I fixed the minor problem with this page so headings appear properly again. Regards Davidelit 12:58, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. Fauzi Bowo is now officially governor (God help us!), so I have restored your edits to his page. Regards Davidelit 09:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

HD/BD comparison, first look studios

Do you really think First Look Studios counts as a major film studio? I think the list needs some trimming or a different title. --Ray andrew 13:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Im talking about the table on the comparison page, I'm going to trim it back a bit. --Ray andrew 13:28, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Yoiks

I've just realised that because I "fixed" your page, previous pre-fix entries are listed as being my edits (including the Allah discussion)! Can't be helped, but please don't ask me what they mean... By the way, I meant to e-mail you, but you don't have an address registered. Might be interesting to get in touch - we are opposites nationwise :-) Regards. Davidelit 16:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Citing sources in other languages

Please refer to Wikipedia's policy on this WP:REF, specifically:

"Because this is the English Wikipedia, English-language sources should be given whenever possible, and should always be used in preference to other language sources of equal calibre. However, do give references in other languages where appropriate. If quoting from a different language source, an English translation should be given with the original-language quote beside it." --Ray andrew 19:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't think google is considered a real translation, it has severe problems with complex wordings. --Ray andrew 19:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

If you really do know how to translate japanese then perhaps you can give this a look [1]. But really everyone thinks the google translation is totally wrong. --Ray andrew 19:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I cant read Japanese, and if you cant either then I don't think we should try to extract meaning out of junk like:"spherical aberration revision becomes necessary on drive side". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ray andrew (talk • contribs) 19:20, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Question about the 51 gig HD DVD website

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fav%2Fdocs%2F20071004%2Fdvd1.htm&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

Thanks for providing this reference, but I can not find the "51 gig HD-DVD will not work in current players" comment. Which paragraph # is it in? Thanks.  :-) - Theaveng 08:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Inviting

I saw that you were inviting people to join WP:BLU. I think that is a good idea and I am going to work in my sandbox to make a message for invitations.--Playstationdude 18:36, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I made it. It is now on WP:BLU.--Playstationdude 19:59, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Panasonic is main Blu-ray supporter?

"Note to previous edit by somebody: Panasonic has more involvement in BD than Sony, so you can't say Sony is the backbone"

Really? First I've ever heard that. Do you have citations for that? Thanks. - Theaveng 19:11, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Kingham Hill

Hi. The article looks a lot better now. I couldn't see what Severn House had to do with the orignal sentence! When I was in Greenwich, the school was boys-only ;-) TinyMark 14:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Collaboration

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freenaulij 03:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Apologies

Didn't really take notice. Sorry. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 22:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

HD DVD in Japanese

Oh I see... I was not aware of this... But because the format war is a "Japanese" format war, I thought a Japanese newspaper would be better than Engadget cite. Let's see how it goes.... Thanks...Mugunth^{(ping me!!!,contribs)} 01:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

High-definition templates

Hi. I got the feeling that {{High-definition}} and the template you started, {{HighDefinitionMedia}}, could be merged, so what do you make of (the first template on) Template:High-definition media? Thanks, Sardanaphalus (talk) 21:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Given the latest HD DVD news, perhaps it's best to wait a while! Sardanaphalus (talk) 12:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

overcat

please - there is no need to duplicate cats as at cardinal julius art - the ones added are part of the ones already there - cheers SatuSuro 00:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Nah no big deal - its just the ones you had added were already covered - it would be better to have more detail in the article than the categories! cheers SatuSuro 00:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC) WP Indonesia wise a very very big problem at the moment is migration of articles and editors from the wikipedia indonesia project with some rather serious quality issues - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism_in_Indonesia for me is an example of what should not happen - using other wp arts as sources is a total misunderstanding of the whole english project WP:RS as well as limited inggeris with some disastrous quality control issues :( SatuSuro 00:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Embassy of Italy to the Holy See

Please read WP:MoS again. It states, "An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation uses the appropriate variety of English for that nation." The EU is not a nation. Neither Italy nor the Holy See are "English-speaking" nations. I've restored the spelling variety used by the first major contributor of Embassy of Italy to the Holy See. Thanks. Gentgeen (talk) 05:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Moved "non-overlapping" Format War thread

Thanks for pointing out I posted in the wrong article. To avoid further confusion, I've taken the liberty of erasing from "Format War" and re-posting in "Comparison", but that meant erasing your original note of support. I hope that's ok and that you'll re-post it, as well. Barte (talk) 15:40, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Mark Speight

Thanks from Islander

After having so, so many people adding the as of yet unconfirmed 'death' of Mark Speight to Wikipedia, and then arguing with me when I remove it, it's a breath of fresh air to see someone add it in good faith, and then remove it themselves once in possession of all the facts. I thank you :). _TalkIslander 19:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Funeral

I added a mention of the funeral before reading your prior "should we add this?" question on the talkpage. Please do be bold in adding sourced information like that yourself. POV bit: I think it's a crying shame that Speight's gone - let alone his appeal to kids, I'm 48 and even at this advanced age I found his enthusiasm a gateway to appreciating art. Tonywalton ^Talk 22:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Indonesia Pusaka

As an article it is pointless as it is in indonesian - it need english translation for english wikipedia - please help whenever you are back - thanks SatuSuro 15:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

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PlayStation 3 table

Hi. Thanks for fixing the model numbers again in the SKU table on PlayStation 3. Sorry about that, I did have a look for differences between the table I had on the talk page and the table in the article but looks like I missed that one! Cheers. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 08:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Jesse McCartney

YouTube isn't a reliable source. Little Red Riding Hoodtalk 23:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, the video was uploaded by the copyright holder, so I've reverted myself. Little Red Riding Hoodtalk 00:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The entire article

Pollo-pescetarianism is a diet which only excludes red meat.

That was it.

A dictionary definition of a neologism.

Obviously, this belongs (if at all) in some sort of article about variants and mutations of Lacto-Ovo, etc.; but no way was it an article, nor could it be. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Of course, if you can find reliable sources to show that a chicken is a vegetable or that a catfish is a fruit it might be notable, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Of course that definition was sloppy too in that: some parts of poultry are red meat yet are included; many reptiles have no red meat yet are excluded; and shards of broken glass are excluded though they are not red meat. I'd suggest you might choose to not waste your time on this one.LeadSongDog (talk) 22:05, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Multicoloured family of Barack Obama

Tanoto, I think it's your turn to do an edit of the ethnic box, if you haven't already. I will watch your back if you get reverted, but I can't get back on until Friday nite, NYC time. It's good to have another editor by my (virtual) side. Bellagio99 (talk) 03:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

For doing some assessment of Indonesian project articles - its been a long time since I have seen anyone help with that - cheers SatuSuro 05:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I will be taking a fairly long wikibreak soon and have been trying to alert people to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AlexNewArtBot/IndonesiaSearchResult its good for a laugh - and as your linguistic capacity with basa jawa, bhs indonesia and english are all good - there are some realy good laughs (and crys) amongst that material SatuSuro 05:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Nah the bot issue is - an irregular look/check at it can be amusing (or not) - I will be back with enthusiasm in January I hope - cheers and thanks for your wishes - have a safe christmas - matur nuwun (about the sum total of my javanese apart from monggo bu / pak ) SatuSuro 05:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Imam Samudra

I reverted this edit because it was apparently in bad faith (read that IPs edit summary), I thought it was vandalism. I have no idea about the article or the time of death of those three people. I just thought its better to revert the article to a version by established editor rather than leave it as edited by an IP using obscene edit summaries. - Unpopular Opinion (talk) 09:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

thanks

Hey Tanato. Wow, thanks for your barnstar. Very kind. Your English is excellent. If I may suggest improvements, it is not your grammar (it is very good), but making your prose/style a little more direct with less words. Note how Indonesian uses a lot more words and tends to mutar-mutar whereas English is a lot more to the point and direct with less words. Ie, less mutarx2.

Also, thanks for being patient where I have actually deleted some of your content. I have done this if I have felt that some of the information is a little trivial. But this is my personal opinion. For example, I don’t think we need to provide an exact address for a landmark, just the general vicinity. Or, what is an “international golf course”? For me, just “golf course”. He he – I don’t like wasting words.

I note the article is lacking in good photos. If you are in Magelang, it would be nice if you could get photos of some of the items mentioned in the article. If you get the opportunity of course.

Cheers --Merbabu (talk) 23:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Caught in hard rangeblock

I have granted your account an exemption from IP blocking. This will allow you to edit through full blocks affecting your IP address when you are logged in.

Please read the page Wikipedia:IP block exemption carefully, especially the section on IP block exemption conditions.

Note in particular that you are not permitted to use this newly-granted right to edit Wikipedia via anonymous proxies, or disruptively. If you do, or there is a serious concern of abuse, then the right may be removed by any administrator.

I hope this will enhance your editing, and allow you to edit successfully and without disruption. -- Avi (talk) 17:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Article talk pages

Hey there. It’s fine to remove content like you did here. In fact, it doesn’t have to be vandalism, rather it’s good to remove any discussion that is not related directly or indirectly to improving wikipedia. Ie, this is not a forum. Cheers --Merbabu (talk) 02:44, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Balitung

Tense man tense - was - you javanese you do the same with his/her every time in speech :) - im almost gone SatuSuro 23:04, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

License tagging for Image:Magelang_02.jpg

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Sorted. I tagged it. w_tanoto (talk) 13:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Featured list candidate: List of monarchs of the Muhammad Ali Dynasty

Hi, W Tanoto!! I saw on this page that you were one of the members of the WikiProject Royalty. The project is very underrepresented among featured lists. I have thus submitted the List of monarchs of the Muhammad Ali Dynasty, on which I worked on, as a featured list candidate. If you would be kind enough to take some of your time and review the list here, I would be extremely grateful. Regards. BomBom (talk) 23:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

NEW USER-Jabrona

Hi. I just wanted to let you know something about the "Andrea Moreno" issue. Her last name IS spelled "Marino". In the season one episode finale her brother's name is shown on the passenger's list as "Marino". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jabrona (talk • contribs) 20:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Pope John Paul II

Hello W Tanato, We are looking for help on the Pope John Paul II article in order to improve it and raise it to ‘Good Article’ and eventually ‘Featured Article’ status. So, I though I would invite you to take a look. Any help would be much appreciated. Kind Regards Marek.69 ^talk 02:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi w_tanoto, I've left a response to your message on my talkpage. -- Marek.69 ^talk 23:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Again, left you another message on my talkpage. Cheers. -- Marek.69 ^talk 00:52, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Dear W Tanoto,

I would like to thank you for your kind and thoughtful gesture of giving me a ‘Saint's Star Award’.

I'm honoured, as it is my first, sniff, barnstar award.

Thank you very much. :-) -- Marek.69 ^talk 18:54, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Barack Obama

Hey Tanoto, I saw you signed under the member for the project. Right now the only Indonesia related article is State Elementary School Menteng 01, if you're interested in taking a shot at that. Grsz¹¹ 21:50, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Pakubuwana

Greetings and happy new year

Noticed work on one of the PB articles - although it is a legitimate edit - however it looks unencyclopediac in the middle of the text

Please if you do one we have to have consistency across all 13 articles - and really the alternate transliterations can go for ever - is it something that really is going to improve the stubs? SatuSuro 22:54, 30 January 2009 (UTC) The more I think about it i dont mind creating 13 redirects myself that simply do the work that way - ie variant spelling in the redirects SatuSuro 23:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC) There are 13 pakubuwanas - you do one, we need consistency across the 13 - I dont think adding the variant spelling in the text is really worth it - I could do redirects instead from the variant spelling SatuSuro 23:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

My apologies I did not check the diffs - how lazy of me - and kurang sopan - thanks for your tolerance of me an ignorant australian! ok maybe redirects are ok then - cheers SatuSuro 07:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation - my main focus while living in yogya many years ago was the area around the imogiri area - and yogya - my wifes work was ten years before and very close to the north west corner of gunung merapi SatuSuro 12:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Date of birth and lead...

Please don't remove the date of birth from the main article. The lead is meant to summarise the info in the main article (see WP:LEAD), so of course some info is repeated. Thanks for fixing the format. --Merbabu (talk) 13:17, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

no need to apologise. As a summary, the lead shouldn't include anything that's not in the main article. It would be nice to see the dates in Indonesia articles changed to international format which seems to be the accepted style (ie, not US style). Ie, rather than "August 17, 1945", we should make it "17 August 1945". --Merbabu (talk) 13:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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