User talk:WC Fifteen

November 2015

Hello, I'm Meters. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Anna Thompson Dodge , but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Changing someone's name is certainly not minor edit. If you have reliable sources, then use them to the article. Merely telling us that you have good sources is useless. And Find-a-Grave is not a reliable source. It is user generated so there is not control over what goes into it. The information may be correct, it may be honestly mistaken, or it could be completely false. There is no way for us to tell. Meters (talk) 03:14, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Reliable source http://forums.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSmid=46606558&GRid=14812762& — Preceding unsigned comment added by WC Fifteen (talk • contribs) 03:30, November 27, 2015‎

Was I not clear where I wrote "Find-a-Grave is not a reliable source. It is user generated so there is not control over what goes into it. The information may be correct, it may be honestly mistaken, or it could be completely false. There is no way for us to tell." It's no different than any other user generated web site. Please read WP:RELIABLE, particularly WP:USERGENERATED. Meters (talk) 03:44, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions. Please mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Anna Thompson Dodge, as "minor" only if they are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Thank you. Meters (talk) 04:02, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Anna Thompson Dodge. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted or removed.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive, until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively could result in loss of editing privileges. Per WP:BRD you need to take this to the talk page and get consensus. These are major changes that have been challenged. I'm not convinced that teh one website is sufficient to justify changing the whole article. There are many sources that use the original spelling. One of the sources you attempted to use was a blog. Again, that is a user-generated site and is not considerd to be a WP:RS Meters (talk) 04:06, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Anna Thompson Dodge shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you get reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
Per WP:BRD you must discuss this edit on the article's talk page. I've started the discussion already. Don't keep changing her name without consensus that it is the correct thing to do. Meters (talk) 04:38, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

You are redirecting the edit. The edit is correct. You have never checked any sources.

See [1] where I listed all the sources you had mentioned, even the ones that were only in the edit summaries, and I discussed each of them. To say that I never checked any sources is completely incorrect. I clearly read all of them. Meters (talk) 05:05, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

You never read the sources listed on the findagrave webpage, which are published material. For example, you never checked official Wayne County, MI records or records at the Burton Collection. A death certificate is a reputable source as well. This entry itself is amateur created and the individual who created it went by common internet sources. You are lacking credentials. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WC Fifteen (talk • contribs) 11:42, November 27, 2015‎

I'm under no obligation to pursue outside sources for you. It's up to you to provide reliable sources to support the change of the subject's name that you are attempting to make to a long-standing, sourced article. It does not matter what sources the writer of the Find-a-Grave site claims to have used. If the sources are not listed in our article then Wikipedia is not using them. You have yet add any reliable sources to the article. If you have personally verified the sources listed on Find-a-Grave then please list them on the talk page so they can be discussed. If they are deemed to be reliable then they can be added to the article. I'm rapidly losing interest in helping you with this issue. Personal attacks on me are not helping your case. Read the links I have provided on reliable sources, edit warring, and other topics, and learn to sign your posts. Meters (talk) 17:26, 27 November 2015 (UTC)