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Hi, Viridiscalculus. As a person who has commented in the above RFC, your input on a possible closure of the RFC at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Morriswa#Proposal to close would be appreciated. Thank you. --Rschen7754 05:09, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

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Interchange locations on I-70 and elsewhere

Hi,

In this edit to Interstate 70 in Maryland you noted that the center of the interchange is in Carroll County. What is the defining characteristic that allows an interchange in a table like that to be placed in two counties or on a county line as I had it? For that interchange some ramps are in Frederick County, and some are in Carroll County. I made the change originally when I saw something similar on an interstate article in Missouri or somewhere out there (I forget the state and interstate number in question), noting to myself that I should specifically check I-70 exit 68 on the I-70 Maryland article.

Note also that a similar situation occurs with Interstate 81 in Maryland / Interstate 81 in Pennsylvania where the PA exit 1 ramps straddle the Mason-Dixon line and therefore the interchange would seem to be in two states.

Just curious what the precedent is, and if it varies by state.

Thanks. --Tckma (talk) 23:48, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure if there is a hard-and-fast rule on what to do in the county line situations. It may be worth bringing the issue up at WT:USRD to see what the consensus (or lack thereof) is. There are two main differences between the Mount Airy situation and the PA 163 situation:
  1. The PA 163 bridge is on or pretty darn close to following the state line. I-70's bridges across MD 27 are not on the county line.
  2. The state line serves as a natural separation for state-detail articles, so extra care needs to be taken for a situation that affects two articles. The state line is also a major political division; county lines are not so major.
My reasoning for only using Carroll County:
  1. I use the official centerpoint of the interchange as deemed by MDSHA, which is 0.03 mile east of the county line in Carroll County according to the HLR. Some exit lists use a range of milepoints for interchanges. If that was the case, then including both counties would be prudent.
  2. Having just one county in the County column is simpler.
  3. Someone may interpret a pair of counties in the County column as MD 27 being on the county line, which is not the case.
I prefer to keep the exit list as it is now, but I could be persuaded to show both counties if there is consensus to do so.  VC  16:12, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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DC 295 connection with MD 295?

I notice that you've reverted my edit to Baltimore-Washington Parkway. (Technically, this is a separate road from MD 295, however, Maryland Route 295 redirects here, and that makes sense.)

If I drive south on MD 295 and I do not get off the highway at US 50, I end up on DC 295 south. What agency is responsible for maintaining that short segment of connecting road? If MDSHA is responsible for maintaining the US 50 interchange, it's certainly not National Park Service. DDoT's more than likely not responsible for maintenance north of the DC/MD border. My guess would be its maintained by MDSHA, in which case it's either MD 295 or has some secret designation.

The MDSHA route log may stop at the US 50 interchange (I'm going to check on this, because I'm curious). However, to someone who is not a roadgeek, that is, most users of Wikipedia, MD 295 connects to DC 295. The entire route in both MD and DC was once slated to be designated as I-295, so there's a historical precedent for this as well. --Tckma (talk) 18:05, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

The Prince George's County 2010 SHA route log (one of the article references) sets milepost 0.00 at US 50, which corroborates the version you reverted to. I'm a little curious as to why MDSHA chooses to start the route log here and not at the DC line. I'm guessing the US 50 interchange is maintained by MDSHA as a part of US 50 (this is what confused me, maybe it should be taken out of the article), but the MD295 mainline and connector to DC 295 are NPS maintained. The B/W Parkway portion of MD 295 is unsigned, and so if it's NPS maintained rather than SHA maintained, why bother to give it a secret designation at all? --Tckma (talk) 18:18, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Now that you have done some digging, you realize why your edit had to be reverted. The secret designation is necessary for MDSHA to inventory the NPS portion of the parkway, particularly because there is a seamless transition between the NPS and MDSHA portions of the parkway. There is also a seamless transition between the MDSHA segment and Russell Street, which is maintained by Baltimore DOT. Keeping inventories of roads maintained by other agencies is not strictly necessary, but it is very helpful. Contrast with the Kansas Department of Transportation, which pretends the Kansas Turnpike does not exist.
As for why MD 295 and DC 295 do not connect, it helps to know the history of the area. The Baltimore–Washington Parkway and the portion of New York Avenue west to Bladensburg Road were completed in 1953 or 1954. There was a seamless transition between New York Avenue and the parkway, which explains why the MD 295 inventory begins at US 50 near the Anacostia River. The current course of MD 201 was built between 1953 and 1957; the Kenilworth Avenue expressway that carries the DC 295 designation was completed in 1957. If you look at the Maryland Route 201 article, it is MD 201 that links with DC 295, not MD 295. US 50 east of the southern end of the parkway, John Hanson Highway, was completed in 1962. The three routes were constructed close enough together in time that it is almost certain they were planned to converge in their current form. The inventory is likely a reflection of that order of events.  VC  20:38, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm not native to Maryland, so I don't have the history. --Tckma (talk) 21:11, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

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Kansas Turnpike

Hi! Kansas Turnpike has hit the stage where the remaining NBI references should be updated - is this something you're still interested in? --Rschen7754 01:23, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I will work on the NBI references this week. Should I also work on the template documentation and/or teach you and other editors how to use it? I noticed it is not used very often outside of Maryland articles.  VC  18:19, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
If you have the time that would be great. --Rschen7754 public (talk) 18:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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I'm confused by what you meant in the RfC

Hey mate, you've asked me if I could "reset the table" in the RfC for the Miami Problem. Either I'm dumb or confused as I'm not sure what you mean. Could you please tell me? Thanks. -DyluckTRocket (talk) 12:09, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

I would like you to restart the discussion by starting a new section in the RfC and framing it with the clarifications you posted at 15:09, 17 August 2013. Your clarifications stopped the morass the discussion was becoming, but I think we need to start anew instead of piling on top of the existing discussion. I want to see as clean a slate as we can, and I think it is really important that you initiate it instead of someone else saying "I am starting a new discussion because DyluckTRocket said up above that X and Y..." Does that resolve your confusion?  VC  17:47, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hi! As a Maryland editor, would you mind commenting on this? --Rschen7754 03:26, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

I am indifferent on whether it gets demoted. If the trend is toward keeping, and you specifically need my help to get it over the hump, give me a shout.  VC  04:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Do you notice anything about the article that needs substantial improvement? --Rschen7754 04:12, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
My first thought is that the article is broad but not comprehensive with regard to history. As with the other 5-year-old articles we are taking to ACR, it was acceptable then but is questionably acceptable now, depending on each person's taste. But making the history comprehensive is going to be a significant undertaking. I would like to work on it eventually, but I have no desire to tackle it now.  VC  04:10, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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MD 925

I'm not seeing any mention of MD 3 there. Do you have the wrong page number? --NE2 03:12, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

It is the page numbered 73 in the actual book, not based on the viewer or PDF or whichever mode you are reading it in. It is in the table within the District 5 section.  VC  04:02, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Blah. Why did they put two books together? I was looking at this one, which, coincidentally, talks about the Crain Highway. --NE2 05:06, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
I agree, it is obnoxious. But the book came that way and was scanned that way.  VC  13:07, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Maryland/All-time list

I'm more or less done with this now. Have you had any success using the state road plats available here? --NE2 06:46, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

I think I have used those once. They were cumbersome. I am also not sure how exactly how they should be used. If the plat is dated 1940, was the road completed in 1940, started in 1940, or was the land acquired in 1940?  VC  15:24, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
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