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Need help on page Saint Thomas Christians and Dispute resolution noticeboard

Dear User:Vice regent, I am robin klein. There is a lot of Vandalism and POV deletion of the mention of anything Jewish regarding the Syrian Malabar Nasranis / Saint Thomas Christians on the page Saint Thomas Christians. The Saint Thomas Christians have a claim of being of Jewish origin that is corroborated by Scholars from various universities including Prof Shalva Weil from Hebrew University Jerusalem and Prof Katz from Florida International University. But a group of 4-5 editors with casteist agenda are deleting any mention of Jewish origin of the said people (Saint Thomas Christians). The problem is that some of these editors are administrators and one of them has threatened to get me banned from editing the article. He keeps on deleting anything got to do with Jewish heritage of the Nasranis/Saint Thomas Christians and does not state any reason for doing so. To put things in a nutshell: There is a concerted deletion of mention of claims to Jewish origin by the ancient christians (Nasranis/Saint Thomas Christians) from Kerala, India. The said community is called as Malabar Nasrani a.k.a Nasrani Mappila. Nasrani is the Hebrew word for Jewish Christianity. It was the Portuguese invaders of Kerala who started calling the Nasranis as Saint Thomas Christians because they hated any Jewish reference to the a supposed christian community. The editors changed the name of the page from Syrian Malabar Nasrani to Saint Thomas Christians. Anyway, the naming is a minor dispute within the larger dispute of the deletion of any cited mention of claims to Jewish descent of the Nasranis a.k.a Malabala Mappila a.k.a Saint Thomas Christians. I had put up quotes from Scholars from Hebrew University Jerusalem and also cited from research work of Prof Katz from Florida International University. Prof Shalva Weil from Hebrew University Jerusalem mentions in her papers that the Northists ( a sub group of the Nasranis) have claims of Jewish origins. She also quotes in her paper about the claim that Saint Thomas the apostle converted members of the Jewish diaspora settled in the Malabar Coast (Kerala). I have given all these quotes with page numbers from the peer reviewed academic papers at the talk page of the article. Now editors are constantly deleting text that mentions the claim of the community to Jewish descent. Why or how would one justify deletion of text when I have given citation or page numbers from the academic research papers. The editors state that I do not know english and that I am misinterpreting the quote. To this I told the editor that since he/she knows better english than me then please help the collaborative wikipedia editing by rewording the text so that the misinterpretation is removed. But the requested rewording did not happen. I have given references and quotes. Why would the editor keep on deleting the text and not allow rewording. Clearly the research authors have mentioned about the claims of jewish origins of the Nasranis Christians (a.k.a Nasrani Mappila a.k.a. Malabar Nasranis a.k.a Saint Thomas Christians). With proper citations given, it is definitely legitimate to mention about the claims of jewish descent of the Nasrani people. How could the editors keep on deleting mention of the claim of jewish origin of the people when proper citation with page numbers have been provided. Does that mean that no mention of claims of Jewish origin should be made even though scholars have stated so, just because the editors have an agenda. The editors who are reverting have administrative powers. I think they are misusing their administrative powers. A lot of discussion regarding the deltion has already happened on the talk page of the article Saint Thomas Christians under the sub heading Jewish descent and at WP:DRN. Now an editor User:Sitush is threatening me that I would be banned from the article. This is using threat. Please help, thanks Robin klein (talk) 14:54, 24 May 2012 (UTC)