User talk:Vetrisimino0/Archive2014

Recent edit to Tigray-Tigrinya people

Hello, and thank you for your recent contribution. While the content of your edit may be true, I have removed it because its depth or nature of detail are not consistent with our objectives as an encyclopedia. I recognize that your edit was made in good faith and hope you will familiarize yourself with what Wikipedia is not so we may collaborate in the future. Thank you! Prof. Mc (talk) 21:38, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

June 2014

Your recent editing history at Eritrea shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Dougweller (talk) 18:41, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'd also like to point out that you should consider that an editor as new as you, with about 75 edits, might not know as much about how we work as someone with almost 125,000 edits. I can assure you again that my opinion on that talk page can be counted. Dougweller (talk) 15:18, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Grand Kudu, Eritrea.jpg

I've raised the copyright status of this file at Commons, see [1]. I can't see any evidence she has allowed it to be used anywhere, and reserving all rights is incompatible with it being used here. Please don't restore it until that's settled. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 18:09, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 2014

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. AcidSnow (talk) 21:15, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. AcidSnow (talk) 21:15, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for edit warring and violating the three-revert rule, as you did at Eritrea. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Bbb23 (talk) 22:47, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about? Nobody but you reverted four times. So why should we be blocked for doing nothing wrong? Your only blocked for a few more hours so you might aswell wait for it to pass. AcidSnow (talk) 20:20, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 2014 part 2

Did you miss user middayexpress who reverted my contributions three times? (Including you two times). Thats how it started. An conflict over content really. Instead you tried to ban me? I came up with reasonable arguments to change the pictures, since I added new sections (music, sport, (cuisine)) and the new pictures would support the new sections, they were also higly relevant. The new pics and sections made improvments since I replaced two old pictures in a section/page that is hardly updated and has not been for ages. Did you see the user middayexpress coming up with good arguments to remove/replacing the things I contributed with? The users middayexpress arguments was that the artist Faytinga was not Eritrean enough (shes 100 %, halv kunama and half tigrinya) and represent two recognized groups in Eritrea and she sings in both languages. The other argument was that the jebena coffe pot image I added was of poor quality, which is not true since it is of better quality than the user middayexpress added. The third argument was that the pics I added was cluttering the page which anyone can tell is not true, the pictures were insert in a manner to prevent this from happening. Three arguments thats not viable.

Also dont forget that in my last edit I restored the last cuisine picture, I made sure that no line was removed from the cuisine section, and I left the axum pics were it was from the beginning just to reach consensus and try to cooperate with you. Have no interested in arguing, I prefer discussing the content and reaching consencus. Vetrisimino0 (talk) 21:18, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I missed nothing. You stated that, "it dont seem right to block me but not the other user that have reverted my contribution over three times", so how am I wrong? I am well aware that Midday reverted three times and that I revered once (at the time when you made that reply). So I will ask you again, can you please explain which one of us broke 3RR other than you? Middayexpress also never stated that Faygtina was not Eritrean "enough". He did say, however, that "Nilotic Kunama traditional music is not characteristic of that of Eritrea's majority Afro-Asiatic communities". This true seeing how the Kunama account for only 2% of the nation and are not Afro-Asiatic like everyone else in the country (other than the Nara, the other Nilotic group).[2] Her image also "clustered" up the Music section seeing how it covered up the majority of it (another valid reason by Midday, so yes he did bring several others as well). Not only that, but she is not part "Tigray" at all and is only Kunama.[3] Nor can I find anything about her speaking/singing in Tigrinya (even if she could that does not mean she understands the language). So I am asking you once again not to make things up. As I pointed earlier, your claims are only WP:ORGINALRESEARCH and are not accepted here.

You never restored the cuisine picture, but rather removed it once again. This is clearly shown in the diff so there's no point in denying this. You also removed the Tour of Eritrea picture once again.[4] Not only did you remove it for the fourth time, you also failed to give a response to why, and refused to acknowledge the image at all. So don't claim that you added content to the sports section like you did here: "I added new sections (music, sport, (cuisine)"; when you actually removed content. I honestly don't understand why you keep denying things even though everyone can see what you have done. All you're doing is simply wasting everyone time and not just yours.

Anyways, I have no power to ban you nor did my action cause you to be "banned". More importantly, your block has nothing to do with me, but rather was entirely brought upon yourself and anyone can see that. So please once again don't make things up. "I prefer discussing the content and reaching consencus.", that's an odd claim seeing how you reverted four times and failed to receive consensus. Ironically, this is exactly what got you blocked in the first place. AcidSnow (talk) 23:25, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

{{unblock}}

Welcome back after your block. PhilKnight (talk) 07:46, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously when it comes to Faytinga you dont know what you are talking about. Faytinga is half Tigrinya and half Kunama, her father is Kunama and mother is Tigrinya. http://www.madote.com/2013/11/the-kunama-people-of-eritrea_9.html?m=1 If you even cared or would of to listen to her songs and albums you would know that half of her songs are in Tigrinya. Secondly you are bringing up things thats not even true. Most of your arguments and claims are simply a way to put me in a bad light. If you go to editing history of Eritrea Is clear what I edited, replaced and restored (old content). Combiend you reverted my edits 5 times. Two times it was my contributions. I gave you my explenation on why I replaced the images and why I want to replace the current ones. The only dispute now are of the images. There is no clutt with my images, they are clearer and of higher quality, my images are taking exactly the same space as yours/middayexpress. I only see poor arguments. Vetrisimino0 (talk) 16:59, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As User:AcidSnow demonstrates above, Faytinga is Kunama and her traditional music reflects that heritage. The Kunama are a Nilotic population representing a tiny fraction of Eritrea's population. As such, they and their culture are not representative of the nation's Afro-Asiatic majority. That link above is also a blog, by the way. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 16:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That heritage? She is 100% Eritrean, she is half Tigrinya and half Kuanama. The afro-asiatic language family has nothing to do with this. What kind of argument is that? Vetrisimino0 (talk) 19:13, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's rather pointless arguing otherwise. AcidSnow's link above points to her official website. It indicates that she is Kunama and that her father was a hero among their kinsmen. Middayexpress (talk) 21:20, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Still you dont get it?. Her mother is still Tigrinya and her father is Kunama! Its exactly what I have told you. She is half Kunama. I have mentioned eight times I think. Its pointless discussing with you. I will ask other users for their opinions regarding this. Her homepage also confrims her mother is from the Eritrean highland Here are more sources confirming she is half tigrinya. [5] , [6], [7], [8].

"While her father was of the Kunama people, her mother grew up in the highlands and was of Tigray descent with grandparents from the Blen tribe. So Faytinga represents three of Eritrea's nine tribes."

"Her first CD album drew upon her father's Kunama heritage while also melding it with her mother's Tigrinya and Bilen heritage."

Here she sings as I mentioned in Tigrinya which many of her songs and albums are written in.

[9] , [10] Vetrisimino0 (talk) 20:13, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tingrinya is the most widely spoken language in Eritrea. It serves as a local lingua franca, including for many Kunama individuals like her. That said, all of your links above are blogs, wikis and wiki mirrors, not reliable sources (see here). Her official website, however, makes it clear that she is Kunama and that her father was a hero among their kinsmen ("Faytinga -- born Dahab Faid Tinga and also known as Dehab Faytinga -- comes from the Kunama people[...] her father was a revered figure among the Kunama people" [11]). It's pretty certain that she knows her own family's ethnic group better than the bloggers you link to. Middayexpress (talk) 14:35, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You've been warned for edit warring per a complaint at WP:AN3

Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:AcidSnow reported by User:Vetrisimino0 (Result: Submitter warned). If you continue to revert at Culture of Eritrea you may be blocked with no further notice. The steps of WP:Dispute resolution are open to you. If you can't persuade the other editors (after a proper discussion) you should step back and cease to revert. Your recent block for edit warring at Eritrea doesn't put you in a good light. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:13, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]