User talk:Verbatim Veritas

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Hello, Verbatim Veritas, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one of your contributions does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

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America's Stonehenge

I'm copying VV's post to my talk page here:

Hello Dougweller,

'Thank you for your response concerning America's Stonehenge. Could you be more specific concerning which rules I violated? The current article states that the site was built in the 18th or 19th century, which is grossly untrue. It also includes several ad hominem attacks on the owners, the Stone family, and that does not settle well with me. All the information I put up is accurate, and has papers to back it up. If you notice, I used citations of the different laboratories,etc. that have done research on the site. If you don't believe me, you're welcome to stop by the site, and I'm sure the Stones would be happy to show you the neccesary facts for you to agree that the information I put up is 100% accurate.

Thank you for your time. Verbatim Veritas (talk) 18:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

First I think I need to warn you about making comments on other editors in edit summaries. These looked like personal attacks and you need to read WP:NPA and WP:AGF perhaps.

Secondly, your 'citations' were simply links to the home pages of various laboratories, etc., not to any actual reports by them. See WP:Verify.

Thirdly, the article does not state when the site was built although it does say " The origin and purpose of the structures is usually attributed to a mixture of land-use practices of local farmers in the 18th and 19th centuries, as well as construction of structures by owner William Goodwin in the 1930s.". You've written things such as "When dating was performed by Geochron in 1989, it was found that the pit was from approximately 650 A.D. It was concluded, therefore," -- have you seen a report from Geochron stating that they concluded anything other than the date from the particular pit?

You say there are ad hominem attacks on the Stone family, but they are not mentioned in the article. Can you please point to what I've missed?

This article is covered by WP:Fringe and WP:REDFLAG. You might want to read those pages.

You are also editing against an apparent consensus that your edits are not helpful. If the IP whose edit summary looks like yours is you, you were asked to take your edits to the talk page for discussion but didn't do so. That's often a sign of someone who has decided to edit war rather than discuss.

At the moment, none of us can edit the article, only the talk page -- where any discussion should be about the article, not an attempt to prove anything about the subject of the article. I hope this answers at least some of your questions. I've got a number of sources for the article and will add them when the article is unprotected. I may bring them to the talk page first. Dougweller (talk) 21:02, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]