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Thanx for welcoming me

Thanks for the welcome ^_^ I think you're the first to show any kind of friendliness since I've been on wikipedia and it's very appreciated ^_^ Aznph8playa 03:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Danke für das Willkommen. :) Kevs

I know that you already have a bunch of sections like this on the talk page, but I'm just stinking it on the bottom so you'll see it. Thanks for the welcome into the site! I'm familiar with Wikipedia rules, I've been on anonymously for a while. Steveo2

Moved into the appropriate section. *grins* - UtherSRG 17:50, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome! I'm really glad to know the tilde thing, I was manually typing it out each and every time! Talk about dedication. Guess I should read the FAQ more carefully next time, huh? Master Thief Garrett 00:57, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome. --LeaMaimone 09:23, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Likewise as with all the previous posters -- thanks for the welcome. And I have an immediate question! If we see a section that could possibly have a subsection with numerous images, what do we do? I'm specifically discussing the Rabbit/European Rabbit section, as there are many breeds of domesticated rabbits these days. We are avid lagamorphologists (real word?) and would like to contribute. We also many other individuals that would do the same. Help? Metavurt 19:14, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

I want to say thank you for the warm welcome you have given me on Wikipedia! I have already added a few Wikipedia and Wiktionary entries and edited some others - do tell me if I'm doing anything wrong; any criticism is gratefully accepted. HenryAJ 18:00, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I'll defer to your authority on the cuttlefish post. I am aware of the apocryphal nature of urbandictionary.com. The term most definately is in use, I assure you, if only as a regionalism.

You were wrong to revert my 107th Congress edit. Lisa Murkowski was appointed in December, 2002 to occupy the seat vacated by Frank Murkowski due to his 2002 election as Alaska Governor. Hence, in the 107th Congress, convening in 2001, Frank Murkowski should be represented as the Senator from Alaska.

Hi! Thanks for leaving me aa little welcome message!Frogprincess1312 06:20, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Well that's all I had to say :-D Laudaka 14:29, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice welcome - Drago9034 05:04, Jan 29, 2004 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for the welcome! Mark Richards

Thank you for welcoming me to Wikipedia my goal is to do the best that I can to help improve wikipedia in all of the areas that I can. Daniel.

Thanks for the welcome note. Helped me understand the User talk thing, and was encouraging. I've been editing modestly for a while now. You set a nice tone for friendly welcoming which invites new users to feel at home. Kd4ttc 03:00, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for welcoming me. However I guess I stay on the German Wikipedia project and just add the inter wiki links here. -- MichaelHaeckel 19:18, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. I really don't know anyone around here yet, and it was nice to know that somebody cared! Jeru 11:07, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Um, I'm not sure how to leave messages on this just yet, but you can always delete this, right? Thanks for the welcome message. Sorry about the inappropriate link. 「Jeshii 12:57, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)」

Thanks for your welcome. (I'm sure you welcome my thanks or do you want to say thanks for the thanks. Then I should say thanks for your thanks....ad infinitum.....) :) I still need to understand the copyright thing. I'd like to upload a rewrite or summary of the 'Waking the Tiger book' under a wikipedia article 'How to Heal Traumas' . Sorry to all wikipedians for the copyright infringements.(they were deleted) Best regards, Jondel 04:38, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)

This just one more thank you for one more kind welcome written by you. Hgfernan 08:45, 13 May 2004

Oh yes, it's taking me a while to find my way around talk pages and stuff, but I was very pleased with the welcome you gave me, too. Thanks, and keep up the good work. Tonusperegrinus 20:28, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, what they said :o] porge 02:45, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome! Sir Trollsalot 07:00, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Me too! Palnu 03:32, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

And thanks! David Sneek 06:36, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

A belated (over 2 months!) thanks for your kind welcome. Lacrimosus 07:23, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

For some strange and atypical reason I would have considered it 'bad luck' to un-redden my name by creating a user page before someone addresses me on my talk page. Thanks for the welcome, now I'm really 'part of it'! Femto 17:26, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Okay, read that "Curse you, now I'll never really get away from it. :)" — Easy enough to find here anyway, though can it be that you actually forgot to sign a message that contains an explanation how to sign a message? Femto 12:25, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome! I'd been around for some months doing minor edits, but never interacted with anyone in the comunity. - Waltervulej 19:06, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome! Stuff ign 16:24, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hey, thank you for welcoming me to wikipedia and backing up what i wrote on the article about chimpanzees. Irresponsible 14:17, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Woo, thanks, didn't know you did Wikipedia! I made one tiny change a while back, but this is still very new to me, but something I'm very fond of (I have become convinced that Wikipedia is the greatest treasure trove of information this world has). Somnior 02:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the welcome OmegaWikipedia 06:36, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for welcoming and four tildes advice =) -- Akaabc 07:16, May 9, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. Bambaiah 12:06, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome and the advice! Mithrandir1986 16:41, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

That habit of seeing things needing fixing is not yours alone; typos speak to me. It is a huge relief that Wikipedia lets me fix them. :) KSmrq 16:46, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Primates

Primate Classification

Hello UtherSRG. I'm user Bradypus from the German Wikipedia and I just saw you translated the baboon articles. I also somtimes check the English Wikipedia and found out you use a very different kind of primate classification (for instance giving the Aotus-monkeys family status under the name Nyctipithecidae) than we do. We have a rather "traditional" classification. What is your source? Regards,--80.108.59.151 07:23, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC) Bradypus (I don't know how to do this Interwiki signatures)

Hello UtherSRG. I really thought you speak a little bit German, because those Babelfish-translations are not very exact. (This is a useful dictionary which I often use, maybe it helps). I looked at the 5 baboon specieses and the Cercopithecinae. Please check my addendums, for I'm not a native speaker and word order, spelling and such things can be wrong. --80.108.59.151 20:04, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)(Bradypus)

Tarsiers

Sorry, my mistake! I misread the hierarchy on the New World Monkeys page, thanks for putting me right (so quickly).--Bwmodular 17:39, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You wrote: "What is your interest in Primates?"

Purely platonic :) Just a fascination with them. I took the Tarsier image (Tarsier.jpg) in Sulawesi years ago, and made some edits to that page, but I'm not an expert on primates. I'm working on a primates image gallery at the moment (to be added to the other animal galleries Wikipedia:List_of_images/Nature/Animals) but I don't think I'm qualified to join the project. If there are any non-technical routine tasks (finding images for taxoboxes, etc) that can be done, I'll gladly help, but I can't contribute in any way that requires technical / scientific knowledge.--Bwmodular 09:38, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Tarsius spectrum

I'll try and find out for sure, but I think it is a Spectral Tarsier (Tarsius spectrum). I saw them in Tangkoko National Park, North Sulawsi - if I can find out for sure, I'll let you know.--Bwmodular 10:18, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Pretty sure it's a Spectral Tarsier now - I've looked at a few studies which took place in Tangkoko and they all refer to Tarsius spectrum. --Bwmodular 11:28, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A quick note to say thanks

I just wanted to drop you a quick note to thank you for your support in my request for adminship. It was certainly a wild ride, and I really appreciate you taking some time out to contribute. ClockworkSoul 16:11, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Birds

Hey there! We seem to have a lot of common interests in animals in general. I just put my name on the WikiBird project and saw your name there. I have done some massive work in categorizing the birds, and I was hoping you could review some of my edits and see if I am conforming to everything ya'll have agreed on. I have been categorizing the parrots recently and I am not sure what should be a parrot or not. Mostly I've just been putting general categories on things that have no cat. at all, trying to get them all corralled in so more precise work can be done on them.

Also, something happened with the columbiformes category (Category:Columbiformes). See the Category:Birds and see that somehow about a dozen of them got saved. I've no idea how that happened or how to fix it without going into each one (a pain with how slow wiki has been running lately.) Till later.--DanielCD 22:43, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Well, with WP being so slow, I'm having a hard time looking, so I'll give some general advice from what I see. First, I believe categories in general are still a little buggy... moving an article from one category to another will show it in both until something forces the cache to be flushed and reloaded from the database. Second, watch your capitalization. Since broad-tailed parrot is all lowercase, Category:broad-tailed parrots should also be lowercase. Finally, I consider myself a junior member of the bird project. Give a knock on the talk pages of a few of the more bird-active folks and see what kind of category schemas they may have kicking around their heads. - UtherSRG 02:12, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

Taxoboxes

Thanks for taking time out to notify me. Go ahead and update the taxoboxes as you see fit and to meet the current standard. Remove the cetacea-specific wrapper template if that is helpful - I believe it is used only on a small number of pages before I dropped the idea - certainly not all species.

Pcb21| Pete 13:57, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Mollusc mantle

Hi there again. I created an article at Mantle (mollusc) and I'd like to invite you to take a peak. It's kind of clumsy, with most of the info coming from my head and other places in wikipedia, but I'm going to do some more research at the library and try to smooth it out, as well as add some refs. --DanielCD 22:14, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Also, do you think we should standardize spelling of Mollusk/Mollusc? I've always spelled it with a "K" but it seems most people like the "C". --DanielCD 22:20, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

It's a good article. I think the image should be something that show the mantle. As for "K" vs "C", I think that's as hard to nail as "color" vs "colour". - UtherSRG 23:22, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)

Copyedit

I wrote a biography of Harold E. Robinson, an eminent (and still living) American botanist. Could you copyedit my text ? Do you think it would be wise to send him an email, asking him to review his own biography ? I certainly need his photo. Anyway, give me your opinion. JoJan 18:59, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

User:Circeus keeps deleting the list of selected works in this article. There are more than 650 publications by this botanist. This list of about 20 publications is almost the minimum. They underscore the text. When I state that Robinson has made a thorough study, overhauling the tribe X, then I also give the publication involved, to substantiate my statement. This list of selected works, instead being too long - as claimed by Circeus -, on the contrary, emphasizes the immense importance of this botanist. I don't like having to fall back on the "three revert rule" and end up in an endless discussion. Can you intervene ? JoJan 09:39, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Happy birthday!

Happy birthday, Uther! Cheers for your commendably productive wiki year. Here's to hoping we'll both still be around a year from now, so I can wish you the same in 2006. Hurrah! :) -- Hadal 13:00, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

NYC Subways

List of New York Subway stations

Thanks for the additions to the list, and sorry if you got an edit conflict. --SPUI 05:23, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

2 Seventh Avenue Express

Hi, sorry to tell you this after you went to so much extra work, but SPUI, I and a few others have been disambiguating between "Lines" (Sea Beach Line, Seventh Avenue Line) and "Services" (A, B, C, etc.) This way we have only one line name for a particular station. We have taken the line names from current official sources, and they are at User:SPUI/New York City Subway lines. The whole ball of wax is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City Subway. Please join us there! The explanation of lines, services, etc. is at New York City Subway line, route and station nomenclature. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 07:44, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ah! So it would still be "Broadway-Seventh Avenue Line"? And that would mean that there are now a few redundant entries in List of New York City Subway stations because I just added 'em. Ok. I'll get them in the (real) morning. It's time for me to head off to sleep. I'll join the WikiProject in the morning, too. - UtherSRG 07:52, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)

And it would also be (for the "2" service) "White Plains Road Line," "Lenox Avenue Line," "Eastern Parkway Line" and "Nostrand Avenue Line." I already made the changes on the 2 line. Have a good night's sleep! :) -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 08:06, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I fixed all the stations in the master list (and added the rest on those lines), so no worries there. I labeled the 4-5 part of Borough Hall as Joralemon Street Tunnel, since we don't know for sure what line that's on. --SPUI 08:25, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ok, so insomnia has hit me. I've done the 3 service, and I believe I did it correctly this time. *grins* Wikipedia:WikiProject_New_York_City_Subway/Line_templates is a big help! I'm moving onto 4 now, and I see there are many real links that will need to be moved. Fun! - UtherSRG 10:42, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)

We're actually doing the station lists on the line pages, to avoid duplication across the service pages (and the inevitable duplication of changes when the MTA changes something). R (New York City Subway) is an example of a service page done this way; Queens Boulevard Line is an example of a line page. As for the templates, you want to use the stuff like {{NYCS Sixth}}, so a change of that template will propagate to all the lists. You should probably take a close look at the source for the QBL page. If you're unsure of a line name, check it against Image:NYC subway origins.png (the one thing to note is that we're using Broadway-BMT Line for the BMT Broadway, since it appears the MTA does that now). --SPUI 12:51, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ah dear oh dear. Ok. Well, I finished up 4 anyway for consistency. I'll see what I can attck next. - UtherSRG 01:35, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)

New York Subway tables

I really appreciate your work on the New York subway tables, although I have a few concerns. I think it look smuch better if the word "free transer to" is not used, as it is fairly redundant as it is assumed. Further, please use "table align=center" to centre all of the tables, otherwise they look a bit odd being left-justified. Thanks! Páll 23:07, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I believe I'm done with what I had planned ot do. Be bold and make adjustments as you see fit. - UtherSRG 00:37, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

Mirabelle

Hi, Stacey. Can you delete the article Mirabelle. I have moved the content to Cherry Plum, the common name for Prunus cerasifera. Mirabelle is not an English word, but French. The English equivalent is the (less common) myrobalan. JoJan 15:56, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ooh! Bad job. Cut-and-paste should not be used to move articles, as it removes the edit history for the article. You should always use the "Move" tab. If you can't, list the article on WP:RM. I will edit the old article, delete the new, and move the old into the new place. - UtherSRG 16:08, Feb 21, 2005 (UTC)

• Mirabelles aren't exactly Cherry Plums. CPs are red and P. cerasifera, Mirabelles are yellow and a hybrid cultivar of P. x domestica. I moved this back. —ExplorerCDT 19:03, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Taxobot

I can assist you building your bot on the pywikipediabot framework. Leave me a message and tell me what you want to do, and I'll lead you through the steps in creating your bot. -- AllyUnion (talk) 05:00, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

---

1. Download the latest version from cvs
2. copy config.py to user-config.py.
3. Edit the first three variables
4. Delete any remaining unchanged variables
5. Save user-config.py file
6. Login by running python login.py
7. You must:

   import wikipedia, config

   The main library is wikipedia, the second library is config

8. Basics to know: read the comments in wikipedia.py
9. page = wikipedia.PageLink(site, pagename) - sets a page link to the variable page
10. page.get() - gets the text from that specified page
11. page.put(text, comment) - puts the new text with the comment
12. wikipedia.getSite() - gets site from config file.

-- AllyUnion (talk) 21:10, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Category:Endangered species

Great idea, but I can only get it to half work - category appears on species page but species doesn't appear on category page. Any ideas? Thanks. Smallweed 15:21, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wired article

Congratulations on your profile in Wired article on Wikipedia, and thanks for all the work you do! Jokestress 16:17, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

They seem to think that you are female though (they evidently didn't notice your middle name) ☺ — PhilHibbs | talk 17:05, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

They need to make Wired a wiki! ;) Jokestress 17:10, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

{sigh} I've been dealing with my gender-neutral first name all my life. I suppose I can suffer it some more for a good article.... even if Daneil didn't include my "hacker manifesto" quote. - UtherSRG 17:15, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

Congrats on your Wired mention: you've entered a whole new level of geekiness! :) FYI, they finally corrected that gender "oversight". – ClockworkSoul 01:21, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Animal rights

Peace, SRG! Thanks for the welcome. I'm not a newbie, though, been (lurking) here, and a local WP, for years.

I see you're into monkeys ;o). Would you be interested in/could I bother you to check my complaint in talk:Mauritius about illegal exportation of monkeys for laboratory experiments? Much obliged. J 15:32, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC)

Can you help me with some questions from a journalist?

How many species do we have so far in wikispecies? Jimbo Wales

Tanks

Thanks for putting the link to bourgeois tragedy into the George Lillo article. Honestly, I loathe Lillo, but that doesn't excuse there being no article on him. Geogre 03:44, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That wasn't my edit. Taht was Thomas Ruefner's edit. - UtherSRG 04:46, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

Wikispecies format

Hi, Uther. I notice you've been doing a lot of work creating wikispecies pages. I've been arguing that project should be structured in a way that allows for variation in classification systems, and have tried setting up an alternate standard on the protist pages. However, it hasn't received any real support. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the matter, since it's something I think would be important for ancient hominids, and from experience your opinions are generally trustworthy. Thanks, Josh

It's a tough call. I don't think most casual users will want to know all the possible variations of classification, although they may be interested to know some of the more prominent schools of thought. On the other hand, users of a more professional caliber will want to be able to explore the variations. I think for navigation it will be easier for the readers and editors to pick a specific classification and stick to it until it gets superceeded. Variations and schools of thought can be described and discussed the the article text. Thinking of the various avian classification systems, though, it might well be better to use a dual navigation system, one for the standard used by Wikipedia, and one for the more current schools of thought. If this is the case, then I'm not sure the incrementally indented navigation system is a good one to use.

Come to think of it, I'm starting to not like it at all.species:User:Planetscape.de has started a push to use taxoboxes. That might be a realm of exploration we can use for showing alternate classifications, or it might prove to be more difficult than not. I like tree diagrams that show can show schools of thought on when taxa were thought to have divided as well, or at least show that a listing of taxa is actually a few groupings of taxa and that they are not all as closely related as a simple list would show.

In general, I run hot and cold about Wikispecies. I think the concept is good, but that it became open to the public too quickly. More work needed to be done on these kinds of decisions before users were invited to come and play. *shrugs* - UtherSRG 12:36, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

The programming for Wikidata has started. This will enable to have Wikispecies with all classification systems. GerardM 13:41, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Admin Request

Hey Uther, I can't make you an admin by myself, but I forwarded your request now to the MediaWiki page. Welcome as an admin! (soon) Best, Benedikt

Sorry for the delay - I'll send an e-mail to Angela. Thanks for the patience and the current help, Benedikt

Are you an admins on Wikispecies yet?Geni 08:29, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I see you now areGeni 11:03, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Image:Yeti.jpg

Image deletion warning

The image Image:Yeti.jpg has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it will be deleted. If you have any information on the source or licensing of this image, please go there to provide the necessary information.

It looks like the current version of the image comes from http://users.skynet.be/donatienne.binard/ADN/album_y/ and the other was drawn by User:Lizard King.

BTW can you confirm that Image:Yeti5.jpg was drawn by User:Lizard King? -- Paddu 11:23, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Lemur

No, I'm afraid I could not recall the name of the animal itself; and had to put up a request on the Reference Desk to know what animal it is. :( Nichalp 17:59, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

Numbers of primate species

I really think 402 is closer to the true than 350. It's from my own lists (Mammal Taxonomy which are probably relatively correct (although the number of species might be affected by the fact that I include many extinct species.. I'll change that). What do you think of "at least 350" or so? Ucucha 14:34, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Groves (2001) lists 350, but there have been a few new species identified since. This list should be of extant species. If you included extinct species (of which we will never have a nearly complete list) in your edit, you should revert all of your changes to what was there before. - UtherSRG 14:44, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

No I should not, as that has not really contributed in the numbers of species. With or without extinct species, they were too low. In any case, my "extinct" species were only Holocene ones, of which the list may be relatively complete. Ucucha 15:42, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Page protection

List of religions and The Matrix need to be protected in order to stop the anonymous vandalism spree related to "Matrixism". Philwelch 03:46, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism is coming from a range of dynamic anon IP's, all of which are either 66.x.x.x or 69.x.x.x. It may or may not be fruitful to block those IP ranges for a few days as well. Philwelch 05:44, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

AIDS

I've just added this message to Talk:AIDS; it would be helpful if at least one of the people deleting the link would respond with a reason for their decision:

Interesting; does no-one involved in editing this page have the simple good manners to discuss their reverts on the Talk page? Now UtherSRG has deleted it. I've put it back until someone follows Wikiquette and explains what's wrong with adding a link to a news item that reports a speech by a Nobel laureate on the topic of the article. Saying 'we don't agree with what she says' isn't good enough — it wouldn't even be good enough if we were talking about the content of the article (does NPoV ring any bells around here?), but especially not in the external links section. I don't agree with her either, but that's not the point. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:03, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Giant Squid

Please stop removing the link I placed on the Giant Squid aritcle. the link has good content, and it deserves to stay as a resource. If needed, contact me at my talk page. --Zeerus 20:53, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed you changed some of my edits on the Giant_Squid page, and just wanted to ask about your sources (I was 24.205.80.49). The most questionable of these is that you put back the claim that giant squids cannot lift their arms out of water-- I find this extremely dubious, from what I know about cephalopods in general. Although Architeuthis is less muscular for its size than many more agressive squids, and so is believed to be a relatively passive ambush predator and slow swimmer, it is still a very muscular animal. Cephalopods in general are very strong, being composed almost entirely of muscle, so I would be shocked if Architeuthis is unable to move its arms out of water. I think it's a valid point that given its anatomy and what is believed about its lifestyle, it is unlikely to attack boats, but really, it is my understanding that only the very gelatinous deep-sea cephalopods are so weak that they would have trouble moving their arms out of water.

Also, it's possible that my parenthetical notes were too awkward, but you removed a comment that some experts believe that there is only one species of Architeuthis, A. Dux, and that the other species classifications were overzealous classification. I'm pretty sure that Steve O'Shea is of this belief-- he says " The genus Architeuthis contains the single cosmopolitan species A. dux and adults are found throughout the temperate oceans at depths of 400-600m." in http://www.tonmo.com/science/public/deepseacephs.php and I believe has advocated this view elsewhere (I don't have the refs, but he is a frequent participant in the forums on TONMO.com, so I can ask). The CephBase article linked at the bottom does seem to reflect the multiple species view, though, so perhaps this is a bit of a rogue viewpoint. However http://tolweb.org/tree?group=Architeuthis suggests that Clyde Roper gives credence to the notion that only 3 species are legitimately distinct.

Lastly, I noted that colossal squid eyes may be bigger than giant squid eyes-- the only full specimen caught appeared to be immature, so while its eyes were not present, and may not be bigger than the largest architeuthis eyes ever measured, there is some reason to believe that in a mature animal they would be. see discussion at http://zapatopi.net/cephnews/colossalsquidcaught.html

Anyway, mostly I had just wanted to change the gross errors in the bouyancy and statocyst information, since it's been bugging me that it was referenced many placees around the web, so all of what I'm asking about is fairly minor in comparison. Just thought I'd ask, though; I'm particularly interested in where the idea that Architeuthis would be too weak to lift its own arms out of the water came from, since I'm quite skeptical (but I'm not a teuthologist).

Oh, I'm also not sure how best to address a glaring error: if the "first real evidence" of the existance of giant squid was in 1873, how could it have been taxonomically typed in 1857? Presumably Steenstrup had a physical specimen-- isn't that a requirement before the name is officially date-stamped?

(you can email me at monty@gg.caltech.edu if you would like to discuss any of this...) (This is my first time editing wikipedia data, so I apologize if your "talk" forum is not the best place for this, or if it is bad etiquette to not register before editing, or something... at first, I tried to get one of the real teuthologists that frequent tonmo.com to fix up the page, but they were too busy or not interested) (I just made an account montyy0 on wikipedia, too.)

--Montyy0 19:17, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)--Montyy0 19:17, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Humboldt squid

You removed a section quoted from elsewhere as "copyright violation". I'm not convinced quoting a section from a diver's account is in violation (I don't think it counts as a "substantial part") but hey, fair enough. Perhaps you'd like to add to the article seeing as you seem to know a bit about squid/nautilus/ammonite. It'd be better than taking stuff out of the article....

Uther_MOO?

Whoa! I had no idea you were on Wikipedia...and so prolific! I thought I had your e-mail address but when I tried to send something it bounced, so I figured I'd google your real name and this came up first. Anyway, Uther and Uther's_Lackey are about to be reaped on LambdaMOO. Drop me an e-mail (etoile at amanita dot net works) so I can ask you some things about the situation - whether you're coming back, and if not what you want done with the objects you own.

-Etoile 05:21, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikispecies

Hi Stacey. You are now an admin at Wikispecies. Talk page redirects no longer work, and as an admin at Wikispecies, it would be best if users could leave you messages there now. Angela. 10:25, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)

Hello, so again: Welcome as admin! Silly question: do you know how to replace the grey logo by the colored version whilst the debate about the final logo is still going on? The file is wikispecies_logo.png. Thanks, Beneditk

Wikipedia Requests/Natural Sciences

Thanks, your the first comment I have got about some of my work. I'm glad too since it took me a good part of 2 hours to sort out. I tidied up the other request pages but that one took the longest. Anyway, thanks. - Erebus555 √ TALK

Black-and-white Ruffed Lemur

Imagine my annoyance to find that by the time I'd finished rejigging this article, I find that not only have you just done exactly the same thing pretty much, but got the taxobox right and not made the capitalisation mistake (I'm always doing that). Keep up the good work! --Mike C | talk 23:28, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Khaaan (et al)

I've replied on my talk page regarding the Khaaan family of redirects. I basically took the most common spelling variations from Google and created the appropriate redirects, because this seems to be a well-recognized (and therefore notable) parody of William Shatner's overacting in that scene. I certainly wasn't creating "junk redirects" as you call them. -- Brhaspati\^talk/_contribs 02:24, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)

Taxoboxes

Sorry about the taxoboxes. Someone pasted one in on the first article I wrote and I've just used it as a template. I've not really got involved in the tree of life project - if there's anything else I should be doing different please let me know! Richard Barlow 12:36, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll sort the rest out! Richard Barlow 12:57, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Human

Hello, at first I though you were a vandal judging by your edit but that doesn't seem to be the case. You categorized humans as a type of ape and not a type of primate. That assertion has been reverted several times on Category:Human. What is your reasoning behind this or was it a mistake? JesseHogan

Humans are apes. Plain and simple. Look at the hominid link that is right on category:human. - UtherSRG 21:41, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

Your aurgument about removing the primate category makes perfect sense but it seems like humans are a type of Hominidae not a type of ape even if humans and apes are both categorized under Hominidae. But since I am not an expert I won't bug you anymore about the subject. However, you might want to add the human category to your watch list because I have seen the ape categorization be removed several times. JesseHogan 02:59, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

GoldenPalace.com Monkey

The official name of the species is actually GoldenPalace.com Monkey. Kingturtle 05:55, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

VfD on Reading spark plugs for racing

The decision on VfD for Reading spark plugs for racing was to wikisource. The article has now been rewritten so that's no longer necessary. Let me know if you have any concerns. Samw 19:54, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Revert on "Prisoner of Azkaban"

You reverted two of my edits on the page for Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, even though there was a clear justification. Can you explain your reasoning?

Taxobox

Hi UtherSRG,

The fact is that I don't like the current taxobox format very much. I tried to "modernize" the layout a bit, but it seems that you don't like it. I will not change it any more.

Regards, RexNL 12:45, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nautilus

Hey, I added some pics at Nautilus, but they don't seem to fit. I thought I'd see what you think. If you think it's too sloppy, I can just revert it. I just thought the camouflage thing was neat. Thanks for your time. --DanielCD 19:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hey, did you think I'm wrong about the scar or did you think it just didn't fit well? It doesn't matter to me; I'm just glad you found a way to fit the pics in. I'm still learning the pic syntax. I guess you'd have to see the actual shell up close to really tell about the scar anyway. Thanks again for your help! --DanielCD 12:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Species of chimpanzees

Yes, I wondered whether I should put that in. Unfortunately, the source I found only had a mention of Pan troglodytes. I was planning to replace that with something more scholarly when time permitted. Do you know whether Goodman or others have published anything about Pan paniscus being also reclassified? Did he mention P. paniscus in the paper, do you know? Grace Note 01:14, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I don't know if he did, although I suspect he did. However, most news sources won't report on there being two species of chimpanzees, especially on an issue like this. It's too much reader education that would need to be done. The other possibility is that he's one of the holdouts that don't accept that there are two species only one.... - UtherSRG 02:59, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

Naranjilla

Why didn't you like the interlanguage links? They are useful to people interested in the word history.

Thanks in advance for any answer. Apparently, the three tildes don't create a hyperlink. 2004-12-29T22:45Z

User:Mista-X external links

Hello.

There is an active discussion at Talk:The_Matrix#MIM_review regarding the suitability of Mista-X's external links, which he added to The Matrix, and quite a number of other movie-related pages. If you wish to, you could come and take a look. -- Curps 02:12, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pandeism - 1833

• Note: I have, within the past half hour, found conclusive evidence of the use of the term "Pandeism" dating back to 1833 [1], being used by Godfrey Higgins, a follower of John Toland, the creator of pantheism.[2]. The term is used in a book written by Higgins called the Anacalypsis. -- 8^D BD2412^gab 11:35, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)
• The article is now completely rewritten in accordance with the verified source. -- 8^D BD2412^gab 13:43, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC)

Sequoia

Hi Uther - User:Gazpacho has made a mess of Sequoia sempervirens and moved it to the silly name California redwood - could you move it back to Sequoia please? - I can't do it as it needs admin. Thanks, MPF 23:42, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Notice of request for arbitration regarding AndyL

I've filed a request for arbitration against AndyL, regarding possible abuse of admin power.

I'm notifying you because you were a party to the underlying content dispute (specifically, you did a revert) prior to the events that led to this request for arbitration. I believe that AndyL and myself are the only directly involved parties, but you may wish to provide evidence later if the arbitration request is accepted. -- Curps 01:11, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Edits

What's going on? Why are you backing out my corrections? Noisy | Talk 12:25, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

The capitalizations were correct. There was no need for you to "fix" them. - UtherSRG 12:33, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

Well I know that my Hutchinson encyclopaedia and my Illustrated Encyclopedia of Animals aren't reference works, but they don't use capitalized names. I invite you to look at any of your own encylopaedias to see if they use capilized form for common animal names. However, having done a bit of research (e.g. Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna)) I see that this has been a fraught subject in the past, so I won't rerevert you. It might have been helpful if you had dropped me a note on my talk page to discuss this first. Noisy | Talk 13:19, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

Matrixism vandal

Hi! You're one of the editors I've noticed reverting "Matrixism" linkspamming, so I thought you might be interested in voting on Wikipedia:Redirects_for_deletion#April_25. Matrixism currently redirects to New religious movement, and this has been used as a justification for linkspamming in the past. I believe an overwhelming vote to delete Matrixism will demonstrate a community consensus against the linkspamming, deterring further vandalism. Thanks for your help. — Phil Welch 19:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Inheritance trilogy

Hey! What's going on? I totally don't get what you meant by that message. Did you delete everything I edited on the Inheritence trilogy? If so, that is against Wikipedia rules and completely unfair. I do not like the Eragon page. It is unorganized, brief, and I personally think it is nearly hopeless! I cannot nominate it for deletion or merging, because that is not an appropriate reason to do so, so I edited the Inheritance trilogy page. I just set down a layout for guidelines for anyone else who wanted to edit it, and I was going to do more later. And the editorials is NOT a rumor board. I clearly stated you have to have proof from the books, websites, or something the author or representative said. It cannot be like "My cousin told me that Eragon dies!" It has have evidence from the books, and that evidence must be stated. I did understand the message you sent me. Basically, the only stuff I got was you saying it was a rumor board, and telling me to keep away from the Inheritance trilogy page! I'm just steaming right now! I would like an explanation, please, why all my editing is gone. And make it understandable, please. I hope that this is just a big misunderstanding, and I'm grinding my teeth in frustration, and banging my fist on the desk for no apparent reason.--Ilovetolearn 19:51, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

HUH?

Are you following everything I do? Everything I've done recently, you've counteracted. I said to keep the star wars FAQ, and you said delete. I edited the Inheritence trilogy page, and you did something to it, I'm guessing deleted it! Do you have a grudge against me or something? If so, please don't! I don't want to be seen as a jerk, and I don't want someone following me around, counteracting everything I do! - Ilovetolearn 20:24, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Re: Inheritance trilogy

Sorry, but I didn't see any notice anywhere that said you aren't allowed to do that! I was coming back to that later and because I had music lessons at that exact moment and had to go. Second, isn't deleting illegal? Aren't you supposed to notify an administrator or something like that? - Ilovetolearn 20:25, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Re: Huh?

Two things. 1. Are you insulting me by saying I'm making poor editing choices?! 2. How do you see the things other users have contributed? The only thing I can see is my own. - Ilovetolearn 20:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Sorry

I'm sorry I yelled at you. I was just frustrated. I've tried to make several things before and they are all put up for speedy deletion. And by the way, it's not because I put up a chat room or anything inappropriate like that. People just said stuff like "bleh!" on the message boards. So I got really upset when you did that to my editing. I'm sorry.

Ammonite

Hey there Uther. I did some major shifting at Ammonite and created some sections out of the mass of material that was floating around there. I was just hoping you might take a peek at it when you get a moment to see if I made any goofs or misplaced anything. I prolly still need to get in and change some wikilink locations. Any suggestions about improving the section divisions are quite welcome. Anyway, thanks for your time! --DanielCD 21:54, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Quick favor re: Matrixism vandalism

Hey, concerning the Matrixism vandal we've been dealing with, there's something I've been wondering about. Every so often, from time to time, some registered user emerges to run interference for the vandal. As soon as List of religions was protected, somebody registered an account and added original research to Jedi census phenomenon suggesting that it was a serious religious movement (there's no evidence of the kind). Of course, this claim is often used as rationalization by the Matrixist when he goes about, I've seen him use it on message boards when I googled it to confirm it wasn't for real.

Anyway, if you think it'd be useful, and if you can do it (or know someone who can do it), I'd like to run an IP check for sockpuppetry. The users are User:Nathyn, User:KickAir8P~, and User:MFNickster. It's probably nothing, but if you could see if any of those match the IP ranges that have been vandalizing I'd appreciate it. Thanks! — Phil Welch 05:50, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Wolf Subspecies

Hello Uther,

I was wondering why you deleted my 'wolf subspecies' edit (It was anonymous, I have only just registered). If you somehow feel that the older list was more complete, let me assure you that it was actually extremely inaccurate. Most of those 'subspecies' simply exist so that a biologist could get his name in the books for something. The newer system exists from extensive comparison of wolf anatomy and distribution. The reason why it is not very commonly seen on the net is because people assume it is an incomplete list, as they see others which contain more names (and as I'm sure you know, most websites on wolves are simply fan sites and not written by scientists). Here is a link to back up my claims- http://www.kerwoodwolf.com/BIOLOGY.htm

"In North America, 24 subspecies were originally recognized. The more modern view however, is that there are only five valid subspecies here: the Eastern Timber Wolf, the Northern Plains Wolf, the Mexican Wolf, the Mackenzie Valley Wolf, and, the Arctic Wolf. Classification is difficult because wolves, so similar to their subspecies in the first place, travel, cutting into the territories of other wolf subspecies, sometimes even interbreeding with the other race and creating pups that are even more difficult to classify. Although the situation is equally confusing in parts of Europe and Asia, scientists have recognized another eight wolf subspecies or races there."

Thanks, Joe

First, please sign "talk" comments with ~~~~.

The edit was because there are too many folks who think they know bio making such edits. You obviously do know what you are talking about, so please go back and restore your edits. However, please also put some annotation in the "talk" so that we know you're legit. Thanks, and sorry for the confusion. - UtherSRG 18:01, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Arini

Thanks for the italics. Arini is my first post. Can I put the genera in alphabetical order or is that wrong? --66.15.81.103 01:10, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Laïs

Could you proofread this article I've just written. I suppose some phrases may have to be expressed differently. Thanks. JoJan 08:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Wolf spider layout correct?

I was hoping you could check over my first attempt at adding/updating a taxobox on wikipedia, for wolf spiders. I would apprecate any feedback on little (or big!) things I may have missed before I set off updating other spider pages! Thanks! :) --Fxer 17:19, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Cheirogaleus

Cheirogaleus should not be linked to Lesser Dwarf Lemur. The Cheirogaleus article should be about the genus, not one of the species in the genus. I've deleted the redirect. - UtherSRG 00:16, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

My original idea was to make a link from the genus if Wikipedia has a single article on a species in that genus. But you're right, it's wrong to do that unless the genus is monotypic. I will remove the other inappropriate redirects I made. Gdr 09:07, 2005 May 19 (UTC)

Hybrids in taxoboxes

As far as I can tell, there is no provision in taxoboxes for a hybrid. This can lead to an anomalous taxobox such as on the page Amanatsu. A template for hybrids is lacking. There should also be made a distinction between natural hybrids, manmade hybrids and intergeneric hybrids (such as in some orchids), grex, and polybrid. On the other hand, the taxobox could contain a general 'hybrid' template (with room for the parents of the hybrid), while the distinction could be made in the article. And then there is the problem of the cultivars. I don't think anyone has bothered yet describing a cultivar on a separate page. But whenever this should happen, a template should be at hand. JoJan 09:47, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

There's a well-known hybrid at Lemon. Gdr 11:10, 2005 May 20 (UTC)

I've editted Amanatsu to look like Lemon. I must admit that I'm not well versed in botany at all, so I'm not sure what to do about hybrids. What are all the possibilities? What would be a good format to distinguish a "regular" species from a hybrid, and different types of hybrids from each other? These questions and a discussion leading to their answers are probably better had on the WP:TOL or taxobox talk page. - UtherSRG 11:58, May 20, 2005 (UTC)

It is probably better that more participants of TOL give their opinion on this matter. Therefore I have moved this discussion to Wikipedia talk:Wikiproject_Tree of Life. JoJan 13:55, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

A Little Help Here...

Hi, I'm Wack'd About Wiki, but you can call me Wack'd. You might know me, since you're the only person who talked to me on my user page. Listen, I know you might think I'm lazy for not doing the Mario characters thing, but the truth is, I've never done this before. I don't know what to put. I need help. And you appear to be the one who can help me. So, how about it? Please help me!

Backstabber!

I thought we were friends! Could you have checked with me first before you deleted every single thing I did to this site! I'd apreeseeate an apolige and a chance to negociate. Thank you.

PS: Sorry for misspellings.

Sorry. You are right. I'm sorry. Very. Glad to know that you'd like to be my friend, as I would like to be yours, too. If you still want to be my friend, which I doubt very much, tell me, so I don't make the same stupid mistake again. I feel like an idiot. --Wack'd About Wiki 21:25, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

• PS: I signed my name this time!
• PSS: I have an aunt named Stacey G.! :)
• PPSS: I'm sorry, but for the third time, I'M SORRY! (Whispering under my breath) Man, I an such a goof-up, and a total idiot...

Grand Turk (frigate)

I took today some photos of this remarkable frigate and wrote an article about it. Could you copyedit it ? Thanks. JoJan 21:53, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm glad you liked it. There is a Tall Ships event going on in my hometown till the end of the week, with the participation among others of 'Belem', 'La Recouvrance', 'Oosterschelde', several brigantines and, of course, the Russian 'Mir', one of the tallest Tall Ships in the world. I'll make a lot of photos, and we'll see if a good article can be written about them. Since you love tall ships, you would probably love to be here right now. JoJan 07:16, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Huh?

Your last message left me in a state of confusion. What do you mean "reverted"? What did you do to my edits? Not mad, just wondering... --Wack'd About Wiki 17:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

You haven't answered me yet. Getting really anxous...if you're not telling me because you think I'll get mad, just tell me because the longest I've ever really been mad at somebody was a minute... --Wack'd About Wiki 14:22, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tall ships

Would you take a look at STS Mir and Mercator (ship). Some copyediting may be in order. Some pretty photos are also at hand at the Commons for the STS Mir and also for the Grand Turk (frigate). You'll probably enjoy it. JoJan 16:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re: taxobot

What you are suppose to do is:

 $ cp config.py user-config.py
 $ vi user-config.py

Then edit out all the lines you don't need in user-config.py. Since I don't know what is in your user-config.py, I can't really help you any further. -- AllyUnion (talk) 02:58, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Unexplained reverts

Did you forget to explain the four recent reversions that you made of edits by Wack'd About Wiki to Friday Night Nicktoons (twice), [3], and Liz Allan? Many editors find unexplained reversions of their changes upsetting and it is a common source of edit wars so it is particularly important to explain such changes. If you feel that it is necessary to make reversions of several edits by the same editor, I recommend that you also contact them on their talk page so that they can understand and stop making the mistake that you have noticed. --Theo (Talk) 15:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Inheritance (trilogy)

I wanted to quickly talk to you about the Inheritance Trilogy. Is there anyway that I can contact you via a messenger or email address? Please respond on my user talk, thanks.

-Aznph8playa 22:43, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• The setup of the Inheritance pages and maybe a large amount of rearrangement?

-Aznph8playa 22:52, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You can chat here or one the various Inheritance pages, as appropriate. In fact, it would be best there, since then other editors can participate in the dialogue. But I'm heading out for the night, so I'll participate later. - UtherSRG 22:59, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Ok well thanks for your help. I just wanted to talk to someone one on one if possible just so that I could clarify a few questions I had. Aznph8playa 01:38, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• I posted my thoughts on Category talk:Inheritance races. DS1953 03:12, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Whether or not the Inheritance Races Category page is needed, there seems to be a consensus that the Inheritance (book 3) page is of a speculatory nature and therefor not fit for wikipedia. If you agree, since you did create the page, I would like to know what are the steps for the actual deletion. Again I am quite new wikipedia so any help would be very kind of you. Aznph8playa 18:21, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Deletion is handled by admins. Regular users do not have those privs. -UtherSRG 19:43, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

Gotcha! Thanks for the info. Uh just out of curiosity, how do you know who is an admin and about how long does it take on average for them to delete/notice something? And about the redirect pages, I just figured I'd follow your lead on those because I couldn't think of anything better =oP In the future though if there becomes an extravagent amount of information available about the races and possibly their languages (as in Tolkein's books) maybe we can reopen the category ^_^ Thanks again for your help. Aznph8playa 21:26, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Why?

Why did you delete my FNN page? None of that was repeated information from another page, and I worked hard on it! --Wack'd About Wiki Click here to tell me why the **** you did it! Please...? 14:31, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Doubt on Nilgiri Langur classification

Hi, I saw that you have changed the scientific name of Nilgiri Langur and reclassified it in Old World monkey instead of Surli. I just wanted to know the reasoning since I read in an Indian book that their scientific name is Presbytis johni. If you can throw some light I'd be glad to know about it. --Idleguy 03:21, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Friday Night Nicktoons

Hi: I notice that you blanked Friday Night Nicktoons when you redirected it but did not move the contents to the target page. I now see that the author of that material is aggrieved. I prefer to move the additional data before creating the redirect. If there is nothing useful to move because the material is duplicated, then stating that in the edit summary can avoid warfare. --Theo (Talk) 08:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No. Go back and look through the history. I was not the first to make it a redirect. And with the history , one can find all the information to copy to where it is redirected to. It is not my responsibility to deal with 11 year olds who can not figure out how to propperly use the system. - UtherSRG 11:04, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Listen, I know we both have difficuilty agreeing on what is appropreate to use on this page (that fact has been proved way to many times). But, there are other pages similar to mine, like that of Snick and Miguzi, and I don't see anyone re-directing them. Apparently, there is know real reason to re-direct my page and not every other block page on this site. I just don't find it fair. --Wack'd About Wiki 11:22, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry for cussing at you.

P.S.S. I don't like the fact that you made it sound like it was my fault just because I'm eleven; and for your information, I do know how to use this page, it's not my fault that every itempt to make myself useful failed; as for my other non-page-creating-related faults, I apoligize.