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William Blair

Hi, I don't understand why you keep deleting the quote from CEO John Ettelson or think it violates a neutral viewpoint. I was there, and that is what he said. I would ask that you not make determinations like this... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.103.4.20 (talk) 17:28, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Advisors to the secondary market

Hello, there I noticed the addition of Houlihan to the secondary market page. While they have hired to person to start a secondary business, I would not have described them (yet) in the "leading adviser to the secondary market" on the basis of either a) number (and or size) of secondary deals they have successfully closed and team size. Actually, I do not think we could find one reference of a deal they have advise on to substantiate their addition to the UBS/CSFB group. I think this is still one of the characteristic of the secondary market: there are few banks playing for good in the specialist secondary advissory market...it will change but has not really happened yet - what do you think? --Tliaudet (talk) 07:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

contribution

The reference to the text added to the Finance and several other sections is meant to provide the reader an authoritative reference on the subject. The additions are not spam...and given that there are very few suggested readings or texts for many of the finance topics, it would make sense to add leading books for reading. Just because I am a co-author of one of the first ones that I suggested does not mean it is less meaningful or valuable. I appreciate your concern, but respectfully ask that you not remove these additions unless you have a valid and defensible reason. Regards, KHM —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khmarks (talk • contribs) 01:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE : Matrix Partners

Done, as per request. - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 18:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sofinnova

I would love to userfy the deleted article, but since it was only two sentences, I thought I'd just copy/paste it here :)

Sofinnova Ventures, Inc., is a venture capital firm with offices in San Francisco, CA, Menlo Park, CA, and San Diego, CA. Sofinnova Ventures was founded in 1976 and is the sister company of Sofinnova Partners in Paris, France.

Happy editing! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SecondMarket, Inc.

I would like to discuss my edits that you undid for:

Private equity secondary market
Campbell Lutyens
Cogent Partners

Essentially you removed a mention of SecondMarket alongside NYPPE, but I am uncertain as to why. SecondMarket is bigger, faster growing, and has far more press and heat than NYPPE. So I do not understand why a mention of them is appropriate whereas it is not for SecondMarket. (And I added links to the websites for both companies, so I was not showing preferential treatment to SecondMarket.) I look forward to your reply and hope we can resolve this issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SecondMarket, Inc. (talk • contribs) 21:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Club deal

Hey, UR, thanks for creating and then expanding Club deal; it had been on my redlist for a long time. I will try to get to adding more to it soon. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:57, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure. I have shifted most of my time toward PE firm articles as the concept pages are generally shaping up ok these days. But saw that article on the list to be created and decided to get it off the ground. I always find that is the hardest part. |► ϋrbanяenewaℓ • TALK ◄| 23:56, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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From Lamro

Hi

I have been terribly busy preparing and sitting CFA Level I exam. What a torture! Now I am back -- will increase my activity.

All the best in the new year! Lamro (talk) 18:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to hear it at least that is over. Unfortunately Level II is worse - huge time sink. Just a couple more years and it will all be over. |► ϋrbanяenewaℓ • TALK ◄| 18:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Congratulations

		The Business and Economics Barnstar
		Congratulations on your excellent contributions to Wikipedia's private equity section Relocator100 (talk) 17:44, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I recently noticed your improvements to various private equity articles. I would like to help you with your project and have joined your Wiki Task Force for Private Equity.

Mark Patterson disambig

Noticed that the description for the investor was reduced to a sentence. New article or lengthy description on disambig article? I'm alright for either. Elm-39 - T/C 19:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't think a lengthy paragraph belonged on the disambig page. I think an article could be called for and was just finishing the basics of an article about Patterson's firm, MatlinPatterson Global Advisors |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 20:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Question, what to do about dishonest editors

Thanks for responding if you have time, I am asking for some advice about Pedianess.

An executive in a company has been editing the Wikipedia page that describes that company. Previously Wikipedia has forbidden this company from editing their page. The executive is doing so under a new alias. He has removed one of my edits. What can we do about this situation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qbxyz420 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Qbxyz420 -> Please name your sources. Your edits are factually incorrect. Who is dishonest? Richluc (talk) 20:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments revised and accurate. Sources are unnamed ex-employees. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qbxyz420 (talk • contribs) 21:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My suggestion

To both of you - I have responded to each of your complaints on your respective talk pages. The key issue here is not what you can prove about this company but what is relevant, accurate and referenced. I think both of you appear to have a WP:COI. If you are going to make comments about a company's survival, that is serious and needs to be referenced appropriately. Adding gossip or rumor is not acceptable. It is also not acceptable for a company to edit its own article to make it appear more favorable. I am now watching this article and will look to both of you to employ restraint and neutrality. |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 21:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

I am indeed an employee of Stream Processors and using my real name (unlike the other anonymous editor). I understand the guidelines of Wikipedia as far as company promotion. I will make one last round of edits with the goal that only verifiable facts are displayed on the page. I am just making sure that my company is represented with real facts and not with unverifiable rumors Richluc (talk) 22:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Vitamin Shoppe

You're quite right, the article did state that there were 340 stores, but for some reason I hadn't spotted that bit. However, without having read that sentence (my fault I admit) the impression that I got was that it was a one-off shop with an internet presence, hence not notable. Please accept my apologies, and I'll take more care in future. Bazonka (talk) 12:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem. I always appreciated someone keeping an eye out for inappropriate articles. |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 18:09, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I am more focused on the content of the article in question rather than your current project to remove links to this website. I am not wedded to it if you think this is some malicious plot. But this appears to be useful content and is ok in my book. The article is a stub and would prefer if you left the link in|► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 05:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great job with Kohlberg Kravis Roberts!

Hey, I just finished the GA review for Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, and it was clearly of high quality. Good job. --Explodicle (T/C) 03:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot. It has taken a lot of work to get that article in shape but I think it has come out pretty well. |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 05:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I've been challenging you a bit in the expectation that you will respond to that challenge. And you have been doing so. Geometry guy 23:35, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I appreciate it. I made a few additional tweaks after you were in it last - thanks for the feedback. I am now on a minimum 24-hour, self-imposed, KKR break. |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 23:43, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help with BBY

Sorry it took a while to respond.

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WikiBreak

ϋrbanяenewaℓ is taking a long wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia when I have a little more time to devote. I am hopeful more users will pick up on the topics I have been working on while I am gone. I am sure I will be back full force at some point and in the meantime I will be watching and reserve the right to stop by from time to time if necessary.

Blackstone Editing

Hello Urbanrenewal, in the article on Blackstone, you deleted the acquisition of Encore Medical. It was referenced with an article, and they still own the company. Through additional acquisitions that company has been transformed in almost a $1 billion-revenue corporation, therefore I think it's relevant. Could you please reinstate it, and give a rationale for the deletion?--Gciriani (talk) 21:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Urbanrenewal, I checked a few investments in the list you argue are "most notable investments", but it would seem that you used double standards. Legoland for instance was acquired for $475 million, but you excluded the Encore Medical acquisition for $670 million. If you have the resources to apply a unified criteria for inclusion, please do so for the entire list, otherwise I suggest you reinstate Encore Medical.--Gciriani (talk) 16:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Urbanrenewal, I thought the key issue here was, as you stated above in your initial rationale, whether or not Encore was in the same category as the group listed. I'm not trying to be confrontational :-) I added Encore only because I had done some homework on the company and therefore I knew they had been acquired by Blackstone. The onus is not on you to come up with a different rationale, but I'm trying to do what is right, and I hope that you will do what is right too. If we both act rationally, and exclude something based on a rationale, and then we see that the rationale doesn't apply, either the exclusion was not right, or the rationale was not right. I'm perfectly willing to work with you on that.--Gciriani (talk) 13:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

removal of link on Private Equity

Dear Urbanrenewal,

I saw you removed the link showing "removing spam link to article about Igor Zax". In fact the link you removed was a roundtable published by private Equity News (Dow Jones publication) on distressed investment and turnaround (placed on the company's website with permission). Could you kindly restore. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Igor101 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. I've redacted the link at my userpage as I said I would. I'm just fiercely uncomfortable violating WP:LINKVIO even for a short time. It's still in history, of course. As I noted at my talk page, though, it seems to copy from additional sources than those originally identified. This said, I'm back to my own talk page, and if you'd like to discuss further there you are welcome. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:28, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Totes>Isotoner lawsuit information

Hi. I recently attempted (unsuccessfully, anyway; I messed up the reference information) to add information about the gender discrimination lawsuit against Totes>Isotoner to their Wikipedia entry, and you reverted it, saying that it's given undue weight. I, and everyone I know who has heard of Totes>Isotoner as a company in the first place recently, has heard about them in terms of the recent lawsuit, which went to the Ohio Supreme Court. The New York Times covered this on their website. I think, in reality, the lawsuit might be bigger than the company now, and I think it's whitewashing a controversial event if we do not talk about it on their stub. Please justify your reasoning.69.94.192.147 (talk) 12:13, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Transaction Value

Given your previous suggestions about conflicts of interest...how do you suggest that i contribute regarding the following?

In our research regarding valuation approaches for M&A, we are seeing the use of a technique called "Transaction Value". We wrote about it in our latest books (the one mentioned in the earlier exchanges). As far as i know, there are no other public sources yet to cite. So, i can write about it an not source my own materials...I can write about it and source my book, or I can just not contribute at this time. What will be the position of Wikipedia?

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Gerald M. Loeb

Gerald M. Loeb (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Thanks so much for creating this article! Cirt (talk) 01:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure - I have been working on a group of articles trying to sketch out some of the history of investment banking and brokerage firms and people associated with them. |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 02:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

new article

hi - i saw you sent me a message on my page and thought you might be able to help me. I am trying to create a new article but I saw somewhere that I should start it in my account. The article is located at(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Canadian_Imperial/Sandbox). It is still a work in progress and i don't want it to get deleted right away. Can you help me out with it?

Done |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 13:11, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

mosicon

Interesting, just read that discussion. Basically there is long standing consensus that these icons should be removed. Instead you reverted a bunch of User:Aspects edits and then started a discussion to change the manual of style. You should actually should stop adding these silly flags until perhaps you get consensus for your change, not the other way around. Garion96 (talk) 12:03, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even more interesting is the canvassing you just did. Of all the people who discussed this MoS you only contacted the persons who were against the manual of style. :) Garion96 (talk) 12:13, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see I haven't removed anymore flags for now. You on the other hand reverted a bunch of my edits with rollback. Which should only be used for vandalism. Hence I removed the rollback group from your account. Garion96 (talk) 11:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Urbanrenewal's preference more important than others? It's a bit hypocritical to tell others to stop making a change he doesn't like, yet he continues to override others . --Merbabu (talk) 11:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To your comment, I am simply maintaining status quo as the discussion is ongoing. I have not gone around adding flags trying to impose my point of view. I simply went back and undid recent flag removals to bring us back to where we were yesterday. If we come to real consensus then I will go along with it but it is much more difficult to wait for User:Aspects or User:Garion to remove all of the flags and then start adding them back later on. I have not accused anyone of acting in bad faith - all I am saying is that there is no rush to remove flags from wikipedia today and I do find it frustrating that in the middle of a discussion User:Garion undid in mass fashion a series of edits from yesterday. |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 11:15, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't you think it's poor form to insist that other editors refrain from editing while you are reverting several editors even though (so far admittedly) the discussion doesn't seem to be going your way. Come on - you started the discussion, you chose the place for the discussion. Now you're saying it's the wrong place to have had the discussion and that the opinions raised are not valid (whilst shouting). Can you not see a problem here? --Merbabu (talk) 11:19, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My only point is that three or four very strong opinioned, well-meaning editors have created an MOS with very narrow participation and for the last year or two have used it as a hammer against other editors who have gotten pulled in as a result of the edits made by these editors. I have counted at least a half dozen of these type of discussions all with the same participation and there is never real consensus only a continuous pounding. I spend my time writing articles, not debating flag icons. I only got involved because of the overreach of the MOS. And while there are more opinions on the other side this is very natural as the only people involved in the discussion are the people agressively removing flags from articles. As I type this< i think the entire discussion is so ridiculous that I cannot believe I am spending my saturday doing it. And now my rollback rights have been removed as a consequence. Hardly seems worth the effort.|► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 11:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ANI

Merbabu - I am not sure why you felt the need to try to hurt my chances of having my rollback rights restored. I think it was pretty clear that the decision to take them away was not objective. I think I have behaved pretty well given what has happened. |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 12:29, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, personally I don't really care about your rollback rights - if you get them back, good for you! You've misunderstood my intent at ANI, but more important, remember it was you who mentioned your Saturday so get out there and enjoy it - Saturdays are more valuable than rollback rights. --Merbabu (talk) 12:43, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - that had just enough patronizing to put a perfect end to this. This is how these kind of discussions always end on that page. In almost three years on wikipedia I have never found a little niche turf like this where a few editors take so much responsibility on themselves. Also, I guess you didn't want my comment on your talk page - I am not surprised you wouldn't want other users to see you talking like that. |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 12:49, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Busch Entertainment

Hi,

I read what you have said about Chrystal Ball, according to it "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation. All articles about anticipated events must be verifiable, and the subject matter must be of sufficiently wide interest that it would merit an article if the event had already occurred. It is appropriate to report discussion and arguments about the prospects for success of future proposals and projects or whether some development will occur, if discussion is properly referenced" Which I have verified. What about NBC Universal rumored to being Purchased by Comcast?

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Rollback

Hi! I've restored rollback for now. Please be more careful in the future - if you encounter a similar situation, especially with an established user in good standing, WP:AGF (and the whole letter salad). Yes, Wikipedia sometimes pisses all of us off ;-). --Stephan Schulz (talk) 13:36, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KKR Cat

Categories should always be representative of the contents of the category. When you have a 'company' category it contains all kinds of things, brands people and whatever. At that point they no longer can be cleanly classified into other parents. That is why the companies named after structure was created. It exists to provide a logical parent for these categories. As an example, Barbarians at the Gate: The Fall of RJR Nabisco is not a private equity portfolio company or private equity firm, it is a book. The same for George R. Roberts except he is a person and not a book. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:48, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The structure is already there in Category:Private equity portfolio companies and Category:Private equity firms. What you may be looking for is a category that includes the portfolios of these companies. That is kind of like the brands categories. Personally I don't see a need for that, but if someone does, I think it should be OK. But we already have a ton of company categories and adding another layer for grouping by ownership type by country by company seems to be overkill. I think the best solution might be with a nav template in the various articles. That allows direct navigation between the various companies. If you need help in setting this up, let me know. BTW, this is the accepted solution for many other types of company information. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:22, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, your suggestion sounds good. My only concern is with Category:Private equity portfolio companies. For me, the name is apparently misleading. I take it as companies that have private equity portfolios. If there is a better name, I think that category should be renamed. Thanks for working with me on this. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just realized that I did not answer this question. 'Is your point that a specific subcategory must be 100% comprised of items that would be also included in the parent category?' It is my understanding that 100% is not required. However in my words, the vast majority of the members should fit into the parent. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:54, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that looks better from what I have seen. Thanks. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:47, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

JP Morgan Chase

Your a pumper.

Stop pumping JP Morgan Chase. I will undo any corrections to the Income statements.

It has always been that people corrected income statements at the beginning of the year!!!!

So stop being a pumper. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesammy12 (talk • contribs) 01:47, 8 October 2009 (UTC) I been correcting pumpers like you.[reply]

People trying to pump citigroup.

Leave it until the end of the year or beginning of next year. Income will continuously change through the year.

I'm trying to keep it constant. Last thing we need is pumpers trying to pump up stocks for these companies. Don't be one of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesammy12 (talk • contribs) 05:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: The Blackstone Group

It's impossible to reference a memo that was sent internally, especially when it isn't even suppose to be seen by the public; the memo will be referenced when WESH gets back with me and finishes up their report on it; but by that time, the story itself will be a reference all together. I won't edit any of the SeaWorld, Blackstone Group or Disney articles pertaining to that exact situation becuase I'll obviously represent a interest confliction, so yeah. I guess it's good to know ahead of time. Happy editing. --A3RO (mailbox) 01:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly my point - Wikipedia is not the appropriate venue for posting this type of item. This is not a place for unverified rumors, unsourced text. There are a number of issues with your posting that memo. |► ϋrбanяeneωaℓ • TALK ◄| 01:17, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm, yeah sure whatever, if you say so. --A3RO (mailbox) 02:14, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Needham

OK the article is now at User:Urbanrenewal/Needham. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:23, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Google Ventures

Thanks for the help, especially with the nav template and stub sorting! Daniel J Simanek (talk) 22:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

J.H. Whitney

I have question for you in my user talk page.--Gciriani (talk) 19:12, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Secondary Private Equity

I have noticed your deletions of the two additions I had recently made. I also noticed that the 'definition' of the list of secondary transactions on the page include "notable" transactions. Clearly there have been very few secondary portfolio sales in 2009 (at least so far) and I was told the 3i was the first portfolio Harbourvest bought (as a portfolio) in 2009, so it has to be notable. It looks like the AIG Private Equity (/APEN it s now called) deals is one of the few structured secondaries. I was intrigued as I thought Fortress was primarily a hedge fund but they are also active in Private Equity direct and funds investments (they have a $1b LP interest portfolio or so). Finally, with the market down, the absolute dealsize might not be a leading / the only indicator of whether a transaction deserves to be added or not. Please do let me know where you are coming from on these two. ps: I am not sure if I should write this on your or my talk page but in a few weeks time I will have figured out more about Wiki..so please..do bear with me -<>- CHEERS !! --WikiSearchMaster (talk) 22:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Secondary Market

Hi Urbanrenewal, I have noticed that you have undone the change for the year 2009. I can understand the arguments on the additional write-up try out which you have undone (speculation+blog reference) / even though I thought they are factually acknoweldged by most participants to the market / but I understand this does not fit the wiki requirements which despite trying to better tackle I have not totally masatered yet to say the least. On the other hand, I thought the latest para for year 2008 should fit into a 2009 section. Or is your position that it's 2008+ Credit crunch? ..in which case I d argue the credit crunch as we knew it 10 months ago is over (leverage deals are back, etc.)...Please do clarify where you are coming from so that I can try to write up something which you like...thanks --Tliaudet (talk) 18:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bad words

I've acceded to your reasonable and civil request. To be honest, what set me off was the tacky phrase "star banker". "Star" is a press-agent word, reserved for PR agents, scamsters and American Idol wannabes; definitely not NPOV. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:05, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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